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  • R Offline
    robmoors
    last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:20

    You could do with a little less grain in my opinion πŸ˜›.

    Also one more thing about your renders, they are excelent though a little bland if you ask me, what you could do is open them up in photoshop and edit them a little to enhance the colours:

    Before:

    http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/view5a.jpg

    After:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/Blaze_X/Untitled-1.jpg

    What I did was dublicate the original twice so that you got the same layer three times, then put the top two on soft light to enhance the colours. After that sharpen one of the soft light layers and merge.

    Rob Moors
    Architecture Student

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      kwistenbiebel
      last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:21

      Thanks Rob. That is looking better indeed.
      I appreciate this kind of input very much!
      I want to learn as much as possible about post 'enhancing' images as I feel this is very important towards the client.
      Actually, i still have to put the final images on CD-rom for the clients, so I can still try to 'enhance' them before handing them over.

      Your method is used in the next image (same patio view as before but with photoshop content added).
      Is this better than the previous one? ...the scrubs in front seem to be quite dominant...

      BEFORE

      http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/view6a.jpg

      AFTER

      http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/view6tonedb.jpg

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        CraigD
        last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:21

        Beautiful stuff! I'm really glad SketchUp worked for you on this extremely large file. Yes, 3D people, cars and trees can significantly impact SketchUp's performance. Adding them later using Photoshop, as you have, looks every bit as good, allows you to make later changes easier, and also helps keep the SketchUp performance load under control.

        Very nice work indeed!!

        • CraigD (Google SketchUp Team)

        Google SketchUp

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        • K Offline
          kwistenbiebel
          last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:22

          Thanks Graig.
          Wow, input straight from the Sketchup team, I feel honoured.
          Sketchup works well for me and you are right: some things (people, trees) are better done in Photoshop.
          Except for placing cars. Because of the specific viewpoints, I prefer 3d cars over Photoshop drop ins.
          I will keep on using Sketchup (despite some difficulties I experienced in terms of editing speed) as much as I can.
          Hopefully some workflow improvement can be done in SU6 towards 'heavy duty' modeling? For instance the ability to assign layer sets (configuration of visible layers) so you can e.g choose quickly layer set 1 that shows layer x, y and z, While layer set 2 shows layer u,w,w en z.... These kind of things would make Sketchup even more suitable for rendering jobs. And of course multicore support would be great to have too πŸ˜†
          I just mention these things because I have to take the opportunity now that a Sketchup team member is watching. πŸ˜‰

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            robmoors
            last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:25

            @unknownuser said:

            Thanks Rob. That is looking better indeed.
            I appreciate this kind of input very much!
            I want to learn as much as possible about post 'enhancing' images as I feel this is very important towards the client.
            Actually, i still have to put the final images on CD-rom for the clients, so I can still try to 'enhance' them before handing them over.

            Your method is used in the next image (same patio view as before but with photoshop content added).
            Is this better than the previous one? ...the scrubs in front seem to be quite dominant...

            You could work with a layer mask, basically that means that you delete the soft light layer in the spots where you don't want the items to pop outs as much.

            Rob Moors
            Architecture Student

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              ypnos1
              last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:26

              Amazing work! Sir you have outdone yourself once again!

              How in the world did you manage such wonderful grass?!
              We'd love to know
              thanks

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                ypnos1
                last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:26

                Sorry one last question

                Where did you find such wonderful trees and 3d people. Did you buy them? If so where? Are they free and available to all of us?

                Sorry for all the questions....really nice work!

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                  guite
                  last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:27

                  @robmoors said:

                  ...put the top two on soft light to enhance the colours.

                  Robmoors,

                  This might seem a dumb question, but would you mind explaining to someone who uses Pshop for only very basic image editing? Is it one of those layer blending options? πŸ˜• A few steps will do.

                  Thanks,
                  Guite

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                  • R Offline
                    robmoors
                    last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:27

                    Yeah I am currently Planning on writing a tutorial which covers basic and advanced finishing of renders in Photoshop.

                    Rob Moors
                    Architecture Student

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                      mateo soletic
                      last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:28

                      Kwistenbiebel,
                      Great work, and I have to say although there is
                      still some grain on those images the windows look great. How long did it render?
                      Robmoors,
                      Ill be looking forward for those tutorials,
                      keep us posted.

                      [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                        sepo
                        last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:29

                        Rob that would be great. I look forward πŸ˜„

                        ypnos1 try these trees

                        Link Preview Image
                        Full Decidious

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                        (www.howardmodels.com)

                        MODERATOR'S EDIT: The images at this link are commercial and almost certainly copyrighted.

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                          Will03
                          last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:30

                          I love that link! I wonder, are we allowed to use these commercially though?

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                            dylan
                            last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:30

                            A nice set of trees!
                            What do you find is the best way to remove the white background?

                            http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                              Will03
                              last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:31

                              If you're on photoshop,

                              select > color range

                              I found a value around the 70's seemed to work pretty well.

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                                sepo
                                last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:31

                                Try Alphaworks plugin from this site http://www.cybia.co.uk/alphaworks.htm

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                                  mateo soletic
                                  last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:32

                                  There is a tutorial somewhere...
                                  here it is. http://www.axialis.com/tutorials/tutorial-misc001.html

                                  [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                                  • K Offline
                                    kwistenbiebel
                                    last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:32

                                    Thanks for those links. that's great stuff.
                                    It would be great if there was a special 'post process' section in the gallery forum.

                                    Cheers,
                                    Kwistenbiebel

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                                      juju
                                      last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:33

                                      We've started a Post Processing section in the tutorial section, is this what you had in mind? I know it is a bit thin at the moment, but it will grow as time goes by and people post some tutorials.

                                      Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                        kwistenbiebel
                                        last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:33

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        We've started a Post Processing section in the tutorial section , is this what you had in mind? I know it is a bit thin at the moment, but it will grow as time goes by and people post some tutorials.

                                        That's great Juju. IMHO the post tonemapping of the render output is primordial.
                                        Sometimes bad renderings can be 'saved' by using the right Pshop tricks.
                                        Alternatively, sometimes bad pshopping screws up a rendering that basically was pretty good to start from. πŸ˜†

                                        Looking forward to see some good tuts in that new section.

                                        Thanks

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                                          Jackson
                                          last edited by 6 Jan 2008, 17:34

                                          Those tree images in that link are commercial and almost certainly copyrighted- although the guys's been a bit foolish posting such large previews (and no legal notices!), but nevertheless using them would surely be a breach of copyright. I edited the post with a note to this effect. As usual, if it seems to be too good to be true....

                                          Jackson

                                          Jackson

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