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SketchUp Guide for Woodworkers: Advanced Techniques

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    dhdyr73ee
    last edited by 10 Apr 2016, 22:31

    Hope I can get the DVD shipped down to Australia.

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      dhdyr73ee
      last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 09:51

      I just noticed there is also a downloadable version of the DVD.
      http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup-guide-for-woodworkers-advanced-techniques-067165.html

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        Dave R
        last edited by 18 Apr 2016, 11:08

        @dhdyr73ee said:

        I just noticed there is also a downloadable version of the DVD.
        http://www.tauntonstore.com/sketchup-guide-for-woodworkers-advanced-techniques-067165.html

        Yes. that is a recent addition. The DVD is not the same content as the book, however. The DVD/video download is additional content to go along with some of the book but it will also stand on its own.

        Thanks for posting that link.

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          Hoff70
          last edited by 29 May 2016, 21:32

          I'd like to order a copy but am a bit confused. Does the eBook come on the DVD, or are these separate items?

          Sounds like there is somewhat different content on the eBook and video? Neither the Tauton store nor Amazon seem clear on this.

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            Dave R
            last edited by 30 May 2016, 10:24

            Larry, the eBook is a direct download. It does not come on the DVD. The DVD is a collection of videos that show, in motion, some of the drawing steps in the book. The DVD is intended as a supplement to the eBook but it can stand alone as well.

            The DVD that is available through Amazon is a Basics video. Entirely different from the eBook and it's associated DVD.

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              Hoff70
              last edited by 30 May 2016, 16:40

              Ah, thanks. Sounds like the video download and eBook is the way to go for the "full meal deal" here. For my purposes, I'd rather not hassle with a physical DVD if the video content is the same. But when I'm in student mode, I do like having SU open on my main monitor, and an ebook on one side monitor and video on the other side monitor.

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                Dave R
                last edited by 30 May 2016, 19:47

                But the video download is for the Basics--the same as the DVD offered on Amazon. The eBook is advanced methods. So the two side by side would be a bit confusing. There is a DVD for the advanced techniques, as well. Again, it is sort of a companion piece to the eBook. It is not a duplicate of the eBook.

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                  baz
                  last edited by 14 Aug 2017, 01:32

                  FYI. The 'eBook' link appears to be broken...

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                    Dave R
                    last edited by 14 Aug 2017, 01:55

                    Thanks for the heads up. I fixed the links.

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                      lockha
                      last edited by 27 Dec 2017, 17:55

                      Dave- I have this DVD and love it. Based on the DVD, I bought the Wudwurx plugins and after some effort was able to install them. But I can't get the dovetail one to work properly.
                      My sequence-

                      1. Draw the 2 boards apart from each other. 2) make them components. 3) Set up preferences (in my case I'm using angle 0 for finger joints). 4) Edit component board 1. 5) select Dovetail, click on baseline at both ends then drag to outside edge. Result- good set of cut tails. 6) Edit component board 2. 7) Select Dovetail, click on its baseline, drag to outside edge. Result- another good set of tails.... Can't get cut pins regardless of what I try!

                      I've followed the video tutorials on both your DVD and the Wudwurx site and can't figure out what i'm doing wrong, but it's clear I'm missing something.

                      I have a second question, but I'll save that for when I get this one figured out.

                      Comments?

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                        Dave R
                        last edited by 27 Dec 2017, 18:15

                        Andy, I'm happy you found the DVD useful.

                        As for the Dovetail plugin, I find it better to have the two components in place overlapping when I use it to make dovetails or box joints. Think of a drawer box. The drawer front receives the pins and the drawer side receives the tails.

                        To create the pins, orbit the camera to look at the end of the drawer front and open the drawer front component for editing. Get the dovetail tool and click on the top back corner, then the bottom back corner and finally the front edge or a corner.

                        To create the tails, open the drawer side component for editing and click on the exact same corners in the drawer front component as you did to make the pins.

                        If that's not clear, try to hold on until i get home from work and I'll set up a session to show you "live".

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                          lockha
                          last edited by 27 Dec 2017, 21:29

                          Dave- Thanks!
                          It worked- the key was clicking on the same line both times- I never knew that (and didn't figure that out from the tutorials...)
                          Now for the second question- (and remember I have Make not Pro)- Imagine a blanket chest 20x20x40 inches. The joinery is either dovetails or finger joints. The sides and ends are 11/16 thick at the top and bottom but bulge in a curve to be 1 1/4 thick at the centre. Kinda like a subtle Bombay style.
                          So I can draw the curved sides, and I can draw the joinery, but I can't draw them together (faces don't work). I have an idea that Intersect Faces is part of the answer, but every time I try that I end up with no faces at all, or at least losing the ones I want to keep.
                          I've looked around for a simple understandable guide to doing this but haven't found one that I can pound into this old bone...

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                            Dave R
                            last edited by 27 Dec 2017, 21:37

                            Glad you got the dovetail tool to work. This tutorial might have made it clearer.

                            As for the curved outside surfaces, I think I did a tutorial on that sort of thing. i'll see if I can find it or I can show you when I get home in about an hour and a half.

                            Edit to add: I think this is the sort of thing you're asking about.
                            Screenshot - 12_27_2017 , 5_21_22 PM.png

                            Done about the same way as you'd do it in the shop. After the dovetails are cut, make a "cutter" to create the curved surface and intersect it with the sides.
                            Screenshot - 12_27_2017 , 5_23_42 PM.png

                            You'll need to open each case side component and paste the cutter into it before running Intersect Faces so you'll have the curved surface left behind as the outer surface of the side.

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                              lockha
                              last edited by 28 Dec 2017, 14:40

                              Hi Dave-
                              What you've drawn is what I'm after.
                              But I don't understand what a cutter is and/or how to use it.
                              PS- now away from my computer till about 3PM Mountain time.
                              thanx
                              a.

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                                lockha
                                last edited by 29 Dec 2017, 15:57

                                Dave-
                                Thanks again for your help.
                                In looking at my notes, it's unclear if I make the cutter a component.

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                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by 29 Dec 2017, 16:29

                                  Glad to help.

                                  I didn't make the cutter a component although you could. If you do, you'd need to explode the cutter component after you paste it in place inside the case side component.

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                                    lockha
                                    last edited by 29 Dec 2017, 23:14

                                    Well, I'm trying it without much success-
                                    Drew the boards (just 2 adjacent with dovetails at this point) and made the cutter- seems ok
                                    Think I got the cutter copied ok to the clipboard- paste in place seems to work
                                    But if I select the cutter I lose that selection when I open the component for editing.
                                    And if I have the component open I get an error that there are no intersections in the model.
                                    Guess maybe I wasn't paying as good attention as I thought I was....

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                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by 30 Dec 2017, 00:43

                                      Andy, I sent you a PM.

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                                        lockha
                                        last edited by 31 Dec 2017, 23:36

                                        Argh!!!
                                        Made the box. Cut the dovetails.
                                        Marked the curve and made the cutter oversize.
                                        Copy to clipboard. Delete the cutter.
                                        Hide the ends (didn't bother to rotate but I've done it.)
                                        Open a side for editing. Edit-> Paste in Place. Everything now within Edit box.
                                        Edit-> Intersect faces with Selection
                                        "No intersections found between selection set
                                        and the rest of the model"

                                        Tried again- same thing

                                        Probably a simple answer- usually is

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                                          Dave R
                                          last edited by 31 Dec 2017, 23:53

                                          Did you make the cutter a component before copying it to the clipboard? Why did you delete the cutter after copying it?

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