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    • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
      LA_RR_Architect
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      Hello,

      The depo still exists pretty much dead in the middle of no where. The rail road abandoned use of it in 1985 and subequently sold it to the National Park Service in 1992.

      It is now fully, and very nicely, restored inside and out and serves as the visitor center at the Mojave National Preserve which is a 2,500 square mile preserve. A park larger than either the state of Deleware or Rhode Island. If you look at Google images of Kelso Depo, you can see how well done it is.

      And yes, the tile work was strictly brute force. I wasn't sure I could pull it off but it wasn't too difficult and seems to have worked pretty well.

      Jim

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      • deaneauD Offline
        deaneau
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        jim if you want, you can share your work in the 3dWarehouse.

        Pullman Buildings look very nice ,too

        i have seen in this week a movie about the time around the May/10/1869

        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/1869-Golden_Spike.jpg

        The Golden Spike ceremony held at Promontory Summit, Utah on May 10, 1869. Photograph by Andrew J. Russell.

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        • Bryan KB Offline
          Bryan K
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          The building looks great!

          See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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          • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
            LA_RR_Architect
            last edited by

            Hello folks,

            Here are a couple renderings including my Kelso Depo model.

            The backround mountains are images I made on site two weeks ago, the trees are free models from Xfrog.

            kelso_14.jpg

            Kelso_24.jpg

            The third image is an enlarged detail showing roof tiles, awnings and double hung windows, gutter and downspout detail and decorative bandsawn rafter tails.

            kelso_19-det.jpg

            I hope you enjoy, thanks for looking.

            Jim

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            • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
              LA_RR_Architect
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              Hello all,

              My latest project is nearing completion... this time the small but fairly fussy B&O depot at Point of Rocks, Maryland.

              It was modeled from the photos and drawings found in the Historic American Engineering Record Survey housed on-line at the Library of Congress. I have also consulted other on-line images of the building which still is in use.

              Jim


              point of rocks.jpg


              point of rocks MONO.jpg

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              • pbacotP Offline
                pbacot
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                Sweet. Yes fussy. Extra decoration or contrivances seem to be features of depots--almost like follies. As if the small building needs extra help to express how fine the destination is. We had many small historical depots in our area that are gone now. Swept away with the public transport. Now a new train is going in and a new depot near our house with it's own idiosyncrasies.

                Very cool model. Would like to see rendering and close-ups. Thanks for sharing!

                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
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                  Oh I missed your depot renderings of the UP desert depot. Very well done!. Good colors on the tile and all. I like the desert mountains in the background. I had expected the trains to be along a platform at the back.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                    LA_RR_Architect
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                    Hello pbacot,

                    Thanks for the comments.

                    Kelso is a bit of an odd depot, not really serving traditional depo functions. For example it has minimal ticketing and baggage support and no waiting room or platform. I gather that in the days before air conditioning waiting in the shade under the arcade was the best option.

                    The depo served two customers: there was a dinner operated 24-7 for passengers on trains without dinning cars and recreational facilities and housing for the railway workers who ran the water / refuel stop and the helper engines that pushed trains over the hill to Los Vegas.

                    I've started on the material tweaking and environment for renderings of the Point of Rocks depot, but it will be a while before I have much to post.

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                    • Bryan KB Offline
                      Bryan K
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                      Another fine model. 👍

                      See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                      • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                        LA_RR_Architect
                        last edited by

                        It's been a while since I posted anything, partly from my need to earn a living, partly because I needed to work out the shingles on the station and partly due to inertia.

                        In any case, I've finally completed a few renderings of the Point of Rocks, Baltimore and Ohio train station in Maryland. The model is geo-located on terrain extracted from Google.

                        Switch train rolling through Point of Rocks

                        An overall view... working out the curving track was one of the challenges.

                        Closer view from the platform

                        A bit of a detail. The paving, brickwork and stone bands are textures, the slate shingles have been modeled, painfully, one at a time with the coursing and patterns as close to the photos of the actual station as possible.

                        Arriving home from work late in the evening.

                        ...and of course we need one of my extra dark images, imagining what it would look like arriving late at night.

                        I hope you enjoy.

                        Jim

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                        • Bryan KB Offline
                          Bryan K
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                          The night shot is perfect.

                          See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                          • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                            LA_RR_Architect
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                            Good evening,
                            Just finished another project, a model of a 70 ton 2 bay covered hopper.

                            Basic SU model

                            The model is based on a fairly schematic engineering drawing and a collection of photographs of the actual cars. This type of car carried various granulated or powdered industrial materials.

                            Colored SU model

                            This model of car was used by a number of railroads in the 1950s with minor variations. I picked the Norfolk Western version because I liked the inverted V cut in the side between the hoppers and like the pale gray color they used.

                            3 view Max

                            Here’s a three view composite from 3DMax. As you can see little additional color / texture work was needed moving it into Max, mostly adding more realistic metal surfaces.

                            Max detail vies

                            I really like hoppers because I can expose a fair amount of detail in the open ends. In this view in addition to a lot of piping, you can see the reserve air tank and below that the brake valve mechanism.
                            On the other side of the car, you can see brake cylinder and the levers used to actuate the brakes.

                            CH Train.jpg

                            Here’s the 70 ton hopper coupled into my switch train.

                            CH  Draw Bridge .jpg

                            And finally, the switch train crossing the Gloucester River draw bridge on a sunny summer afternoon.

                            As usual, I had a lot of fun building this little car.
                            Jim

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
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                              IMG_0086.jpgI made it to the Kelso Depot last year. Your images are totally right on with the original. Nice work!

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                                LA_RR_Architect
                                last edited by

                                Hi,

                                Way out in the middle of nowhere isn't it? The building is well preserved and makes for an interesting visit if you're passing through.

                                In doing the model I worked from some really nice drawings and photographs from the Historic American Buildings Survey that I downloaded from the Library of Congress. They show it before it was fully restored. In doing my model I tried to scrub out changes made to convert it to a modern visitor center.

                                I also visited the building (a day's drive from home) to photograph it and the surrounding landscape but you got better sky images. It was cloudless blue when I was there.

                                Thanks for the feedback.

                                Jim

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                                • Bryan KB Offline
                                  Bryan K
                                  last edited by

                                  Top notch models as always!

                                  See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                  • Lostboy30AL Offline
                                    Lostboy30A
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                                    Hi, has anyone used Sketch Up (SU) to design open frame scenic railway boards made of shaped ply? I was at my model railway club in London, UK, and another member recommended SU as I was inspired by this efforts on this N (UK 1:148) layout below.
                                    I think mostly I will be taking a lot of time to look at the basics tutorials to get myself out of some jams I'm in. This might be considered the easiest 3D app to use, but it seems like the trickiest new app I've tried so progress is slow.
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVyPN2QyIjI

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                                    • Bryan KB Offline
                                      Bryan K
                                      last edited by

                                      @lostboy30a said:

                                      Hi, has anyone used Sketch Up (SU) to design open frame scenic railway boards made of shaped ply? I was at my model railway club in London, UK, and another member recommended SU as I was inspired by this efforts on this N (UK 1:148) layout below.
                                      I think mostly I will be taking a lot of time to look at the basics tutorials to get myself out of some jams I'm in. This might be considered the easiest 3D app to use, but it seems like the trickiest new app I've tried so progress is slow.
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVyPN2QyIjI

                                      There are a lot of tutorials here* and on YouTube, but they are scattered around. SketchUp should be perfect for what you want to do.

                                      The best thing is just keep at it and it will all make sense eventually. 3D is hard to begin with, but SketchUp is by far the easiest to learn. (to which I first said "This is easy?!") 😄

                                      Also consider plug ins. There are a huge number of plug-ins that make modeling easier.

                                      • https://sketchucation.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=18 <- click here for SketchUcation tutorials

                                      See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                      • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                                        LA_RR_Architect
                                        last edited by

                                        In any case, i think you've made a good decision. Sketchup is an easy, although not foolproof, system and can do remarkable modeling. It's definitely the easiest system I've used.

                                        It is easier to do rectangular shapes but at least initially the plywood components of your model should be pretty near 2d and fairly straightforward. Arcs and circles are not bad as well.

                                        If you're working with modular track elements things should also be pretty simple. Once you get to spline curves (i.e. flex track,) and topography things get a bit trickier.

                                        I recommend showing us your progress, perhaps opening a thread devoted to your progress and problems. I'm sure you'll get a lot of good advice.

                                        Jim

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                                        • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                                          LA_RR_Architect
                                          last edited by

                                          This week I was able to take a break from work and crank out another piece of RR rolling stock. This time a "heavy weight" PRR dining car.

                                          For a slab sided fairly basic shape it proved to be more technical and challenging that I had expected. The roof ends were especially fun.

                                          this is the model without color or transparency

                                          ...and here pre-colored for the render sytem

                                          With colors and textures representing a freshly shopped and cleaned car

                                          A detail

                                          Assigned to a train rolling into Florin PA

                                          I hope you will enjoy but questions, observations and criticism are always welcome.

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                                          • tuna1957T Offline
                                            tuna1957
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                                            your train car and station models are epic ( the renders are fab too ). love it when you post new stuff. 👍 👍

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