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    • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
      jiminy-billy-bob
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      @aerilius said:

      I really see no advantage of having an imperfect built-in (or Ruby plugin) raytracer, while there are already so many dedicated renderers with better illumination models, more speed and more realistic output.

      Well, raytracing can be used to so many different things than rendering.

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      • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
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        Coming back to the main topic...

        I've got a 20% gain in speed by using hashes lookups instead of arrays.

        <span class="syntaxdefault">ents </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> unless ents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">is_a</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">?(Array)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">entIDs </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> Hash</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">ents</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">map </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">{|</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">|</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">e</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">entityID</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> 1</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]}]<br /><br /></span><span class="syntaxcomment">#...<br /><br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">entID </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> hit</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">1</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">][</span><span class="syntaxdefault">0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">].</span><span class="syntaxdefault">entityID if hit</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">1</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">][</span><span class="syntaxdefault">0</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">return result if entIDs</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">[</span><span class="syntaxdefault">entID</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">]</span><span class="syntaxdefault"></span>
        

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        • A Offline
          Anton_S
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          @jiminy-billy-bob said:

          Coming back to the main topic...
          I've got a 20% gain?

          👍 I never thought Hashes were faster than Arrays.
          I will edit the code above.

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          • AdamBA Offline
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            @oricatmos said:

            @aerilius said:

            I really see no advantage of having an imperfect built-in (or Ruby plugin) raytracer, while there are already so many dedicated renderers with better illumination models, more speed and more realistic output.

            Yeah, I guess the raytest function would need to be able to take an array of rays and do multithreaded casting to be comparable to an external raytracer. By the way, we're doing room acoustics simulation, not visual rendering, with our plugin.

            The wavelength of light is small so mostly you can ignore diffraction effects and treat light as moving in straight lines. Audio wavelengths are much longer and have significant diffraction around corners (hence you can hear round corners!), so how does using (straight line) raytracing help here?

            Just interested..

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            • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
              jiminy-billy-bob
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              @anton_s said:

              👍 I never thought Hashes were faster than Arrays.
              I will edit the code above.

              This is because in this exemple, we look for keys in the hash, compared to looking for values in the array.
              I guess they're as fast as each other in both cases, but in hashes you can have custom keys.

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                Aerilius
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                @anton_s said:

                👍 I never thought Hashes were faster than Arrays.
                Ruby saves developers from using primitive data types how data is stored in RAM, but it has more abstract, optimized data types.
                Arrays are likely implemented as a double linked list (correct my if I'm wrong) and hashes as some sort of trees. You can see in Wikipedia what each of them are good at (see indexing).

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                • jolranJ Offline
                  jolran
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                  Howbout Array.uniq! ?

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                  • AdamBA Offline
                    AdamB
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                    @aerilius said:

                    @anton_s said:

                    👍 I never thought Hashes were faster than Arrays.
                    Ruby saves developers from using primitive data types how data is stored in RAM, but it has more abstract, optimized data types.
                    Arrays are likely implemented as a double linked list (correct my if I'm wrong) and hashes as some sort of trees. You can see in Wikipedia what each of them are good at (see indexing).

                    Ruby Arrays are simply contiguous sequences of VALUES - no linked lists here.

                    Hashes are just Arrays - just not using an integer index to access but the digest of an arbitrary "Key".
                    So a bit like:

                    array["my key string".hash] = a_value array[123.hash] = a_value

                    Hash tables take care of the generated key being larger than the array (aka Table) and also collisions (2 keys generating the same hash) - but essentially its just an array.

                    Hash tables have no "ordering" - its a Set or more properly a Collection since Values are not unique.

                    Aerilius, you may be thinking of Ordered-collections which can be implemented using a tree (red-black trees being a common example).

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                    • AdamBA Offline
                      AdamB
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                      Another way of thinking about it is that Arrays are actually Hash tables using a really simple hashing algorithm that is:

                      hash(N) => N

                      Have a good weekend!

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                      • OricAtmosO Offline
                        OricAtmos
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                        @adamb said:

                        The wavelength of light is small so mostly you can ignore diffraction effects and treat light as moving in straight lines. Audio wavelengths are much longer and have significant diffraction around corners (hence you can hear round corners!), so how does using (straight line) raytracing help here?

                        Good observation! Raytracing is essentially just an approximation of how sound travels. Diffraction can't be modeled that way. As far as I know, simulating diffraction is still a hot topic in the field of acoustics and there's no catch-all automatic solution yet. (I'm not an expert in acoustics, I'm just a Computer Science student doing some coding at an acoustics chair/institute)

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                        • jiminy-billy-bobJ Offline
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                          I've been playing with raytest a bit. From my understanding, it works like this:

                          • It checks ALL entities in the model root context
                          • If something is hit and it's a face/edge/etc, the raytest returns the entity
                          • If the hit entity is a group or component, it again checks ALL entities in that group/comp
                          • And so forth until it hits a face/edge/etc

                          So if you have a lot of loose geometry in one of the hit contexts, it will be damn slow. But you can have a shitload of geometry in a group/comp not on the path of the ray, and you'll have decent performances.

                          To check if a group/comp is hit, the raytest doesn't look at the geometry inside it, but rather at its bounding box.
                          This is really important because you could have a lot of geometry away from the ray, but if the bounding box of the containing group is on the ray path, all of that geometry will be checked. Resulting in a slow raytest.

                          I hope it's clear?

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