How are things in YOUR country?
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andybot,
the average pay of an employee
can vary from € .700.00, to € .1200.00 "netto".
For companies the cost of labor affects more than double.
Serious problems afflicting Italy:
Our public debt is totally in the hands of banks (38% foreign),
that, at this time, strangling the State in order to fill their holes.
Our political system (bad) creates, always unstable.
Corruption is rampant in all sectors.
It lacks a true "STATESMAN" with long views.
We no longer have a entrepreneurial system with balls.
Many companies close down or re-open in other states most convenient.
Our best "brains" are fleeing abroad and no longer fit.
And I might continue indefinitely.
Certainly still cut pensions and health.
So the poor will still be poor.
Only a few families (10%) holds a great wealth.
Hard to radically change these things.
Our people are very angry.
My fear is that everything could, over time, degenerate into popular revolts.
I do not know how it will end.
I still think that after the fall of the Berlin Wall
and the disappearance of "Communism", even the "Capitalist" system
is destined to disappear. First there was a strange "balance":
as the day has the night, the white has black, good and bad, etc..
Now we see the "Globalization" ...
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I'm glad I started this thread as we are seeing honest and forthright opinions from many of SCF members around the world. Hopefully more will row in and we might then start throwing ideas around that might shine some light on WTF is really going on .......... I have a feeling about what is actually happening but hope I am being paranoid ...... time will tell.
Fortunately the average man on the street these days is in a great position to get a true picture of what is happening world-wide. Even reliable information on North Korea is available if one delves deep enough. Then we have the whistle blowers! I think they deserve support from the ordinary man.
As mentioned above in a number of threads, Big Corporation and Big Government are being identified as root causes for much of the turmoil. I have purposely not used the word 'globalization' as I don't feel the true meaning of the word is our problem. Here is a definition, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization
I read a short but very concise and informative article this morning in the Telegraph (UK newspaper) by Jeremy Warner which explains in simple straightforward language what is causing the continuation of the financial crisis. Well worth the read here,
Argentina is no danger to the world - but the eurozone is
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10607595/Argentina-is-no-danger-to-the-world-but-the-eurozone-is.htmlAnother article by David McWilliams, a very well respected economist here in Ireland shown some light for me on what the big multi-national pharmaceutical giants are doing here in Ireland. The article is here, An Economic Renaissance in Cork?
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2014/01/30/an-economic-renaissance-in-corkOne particular paragraph stuck out for me. It reads,
'But just look at the bargain the multinationals are getting in Cork. In 2011, Co Cork had the highest value of gross output per person engaged in Ireland at €1.18m. So the multinationals are making on average €1,180,000 per employee and they are paying each employee €44,800. This is a phenomenal deal for multinationals.'
They (multinationals) are making €1,180,000 per person engaged in Ireland! If this is the case there is something totally out of balance. I don't know what as I am still thinking about it.
My immediate thoughts are the cost of the medicine I need each month. I pay on average €140 and this figure is subsidized by the Health Authority. I am lead to understand that the actual cost of the medicine is over €240! I imagine the profit margin MUST be gigantic, possibly many 100s of percent!
Still thinking
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Greece on high alert after extremists declare war on ‘German capitalist machine’
It looks more and more that Greece is the ticking time-bomb of the EU. I just watched a short report from RT News, an NET based alternative news media, that shows pictures of the German Embassy in Athens with walls peppered by machine gun bullet marks, they said 50 hit the embassy. No one hurt thankfully.
Blame is laid on 'The Popular Fighters' (Party / Movement). They are being described, as a 'Leftists' on the media and I imagine many would brand they as terrorists of sorts but at the same time I think they may feel its the only way they can express their feelings about what is happening in Greece, the 'Home of Democracy'!
This happened in late December 2013 and I did not hear a word about in on the Irish national broadcaster, RTE. I wonder why? I have however a fair idea why this important news was not reported to the masses.
The RT News items includes a comment from a sympathetic German citizen. It reads as follows,
"As a German my advice to the Greek people is: declare bankruptcy and get out of the EU. Iceland did and it seems they are doing ok now. Harneis is spot on, by far most of the "bailout" money goes right back to the banks and not to the Greek people. As an occasional vacationer I have to admit that Greece is off my list, though. And btw, lots of ordinary Germans are suffering also-over the last 10-15 years our social safety net has been shred to pieces".
The comment speaks for itself .... "by far most of the "bailout" money goes right back to the banks and not to the Greek people"
I think the whole EU 'experiment' is going to come to a bad end very soon. The May EU elections will determine the will of the people of Europe. There are signs that the next EU parliament to be elected will be heavy with Euroskeptics! In my case I don't think I will be voting for more of the same ..... change is needed
The link to the RT news item is here, http://rt.com/news/greece-germany-leftist-group-866/
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Those (the quote) are the type of opinions that I've only heard when the media search hard for a "contra" opinion to have a nice pro&contra. I don't know any person who thinks so.
There is also a small new eurosceptics party in Germany (AfD). What if Europeans elect such alternatives or even Nationalists, that all contradict each other? Can there be an "International Union of Nationalists"?
I think this would be contraproductive. It might be true that we need to optimize the balance of subjects that are better handled by the EU or by individual states, but the way to do this (ie. to agree to increase/reduce EU involvement) can only be a common European way, and not a way of disagreement. -
Mike, I was watching a piece on Al Jazeera America regarding fracking in Northern Ireland and how that would impact the Shannon river, I'm not sure if or how you will be affected but interested in your opinion of this.
Here in Texas we have had so many issues from water that you can light to extreme tremors and mild quakes.
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@aerilius said:
Those (the quote) are the type of opinions that I've only heard when the media search hard for a "contra" opinion to have a nice pro&contra. I don't know any person who thinks so.
There is also a small new eurosceptics party in Germany (AfD). What if Europeans elect such alternatives or even Nationalists, that all contradict each other? Can there be an "International Union of Nationalists"?
I think this would be contra productive. It might be true that we need to optimise the balance of subjects that are better handled by the EU or by individual states, but the way to do this (ie. to agree to increase/reduce EU involvement) can only be a common European way, and not a way of disagreement.I take your point Aerilius and can understand where you are coming from.
Fundamentally I feel the EU as it stands is a mess. As they say, 'One Size Does Not Fit All' and this is what I see being forced in the periphery countries.
I also am not happy about how the EU Commission and Presidency is elected. Neither are done truly democratically as far as I'm concerned and until this becomes the situation I think we would be better off 'running at our own speeds' and go back to the Common Market idea with our own currencies and build from there on a more sensible model.
Also on the currency end of things, I think we could be seeing a new global trading currency / note backed to some extent by PMs, gold / silver. It looks that China and Russia also other BRICS countries have this in mind and the US may have no option but to join the basket of currencies also ....... could be the beginning of the New World Order!
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Inflation unknown as fudged by government, supposed to be 2%, but probably 6% as food basics keep climbing. unemployment ~6% and probably rising. banks all bailed out by current right wing gov. recent earthquake in Christchurch being hailed as economic boom, but really is just NZ$40 billion that could've been spent elsewhere. we still have free education and medical care.
NZ's core economic problem (IMO) is cultural, where the economy switches en masse to new ideas, so we've had rural booms (manufacturing has been gutted by a no-tariff system and most goods now imported from Asia - if we ever have a real oil shock, we'll be in trouble as there's little industrial capability left) based on: kiwifruit, deer, forestry, grapes, a brief flirtation with olives, and now dairy farming. But at core the focus is on quantity, so the result is a sudden correction, either when the market saturates, our competitors catch up or a disease occurs - most crops underlying this are monocultures with the attendant disease risk - e.g. kiwifruit got a virus and died off.
Rural land prices being driven up by dairy boom, but Rabobank has reported that this should end soon as we have no competitive edge, and the quality edge is falling off - it's difficult here (read - unhelpful/antagonistic government) to be an organic (or be environmentally aware) farmer. Farm debt is nz$50 billion and becoming a concern. Monsanto has been visiting a lot trying to influence government and ensure tht organic farming etc never happens (very little reporting on this though as most media Fairfax controlled, also anything technical here seen as progress, also ecological solutions are difficult to monetize and so are a threat to corporations - sounds paranoid but "by their fruits shall you know them").
Forestry has been hard hit as previous gov. signed kyoto, while the right-wing were too gutless to pull us out, and with the carbon price collapse no one is planting trees - rules here around carbon and trees are so confusing that growers have become wary of planting. The dairy boom is also at work here too as poorer land that should've gone to forestry is being made into pasture.
house prices heading towards another bubble. we still have free education and medical care, although health insurance is a good idea as queues are long, cost is quite low though.
A bit like a smaller version of Canada in that each region has its own economy, not that government aportions funding back to the contributing areas - farming makes the money, but most money spent in the cities, so rural roading, hospitals and telecoms generally suffer. And all cities are on major faultlines / volcanoes so that's a winning strategy eh !?
we have a right wing government who are constantly straining to sell off state assets, mine the oceans, legalise GE, frack everything and generally *&^% the planet, as well as run off to war whenever the US whistles.
our climate is seriously out of whack, with extended droughts, winters (generally) much warmer than usual, a dramatic increase in tornados! and larger, more eratic storms. What interests me about climate reporting is how little media discussion there is about the possible causes of the eratic weather - this (http://blogs.channel4.com/liam-dutton-on-weather/weakening-jet-stream-means-stormy-outlook/5923) is one of the few pieces that explores some causes.
That said I've traveled a lot and this is still the best spot on the planet, but it's sure getting expensive to live here.
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@solo said:
Mike, I was watching a piece on Al Jazeera America regarding fracking in Northern Ireland and how that would impact the Shannon river, I'm not sure if or how you will be affected but interested in your opinion of this.
Here in Texas we have had so many issues from water that you can light to extreme tremors and mild quakes.
Pete, I'm fairly up to speed on fracking as half of Co. Clare, where I live, is shale and its been licensed for exploration however the government has not yet given the go ahead for the extraction. There are a lot of strong anti-fracking groups that are pressurising to stop all fracking.
Northern Ireland is part of the UK so the Irish Government has no say, well not much, when it comes to fracking in Northern Ireland. I have also read what you mention, potential polution to the River Shannon (longest river in the British Isles or the Western Atlantic Archipelago, as some like to call it!) and as there are plans to draw drinking water from the Shannon to Dublin (Capital), there could be huge implications.
I approached fracking with an open mind but after some study and research I would prefer to leave the shale alone. My main concerns are, the fracking companies will not say what chemicals are bing used as they say its a trade secret! The system executed under strict supervision cannot guarantee that there will be no leaks of methane to the ground water table. There is also the problem of disposal of the toxic (unknown) waste. And finally there could be issues with potential earth tremors.
The upside is that farming community in the Republic of Ireland are a close knit bunch and I doubt that it will be that easy for fracking companies to lease/ purchase land from then. I would go as far to say that breaking ranks would be a rare enough thing.
Bottom line for me is No Fracking In The Island of Ireland! We should concentrate on renewables and wait for development of this,
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@unearthed said:
That said I've traveled a lot and this is still the best spot on the planet, but it's sure getting expensive to live here.
Thanks for the great overview on NZ. I have a special interest as my daughter, her hubby (a Kiwi) and our grandson will moving to Auckland in September this year. As our other daughter is located in Sydney and intends settle there, we could be moving lock stock and barrel in a couple of years as soon as I get my pensions sorted out
Even though NZ has lots of problems and which country doesn't, t looks to be a great place to live and your confirmation is good to here
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Hi Mike, Why Auckland (I lived there 12 yrs)?, is it for a job, because if not there're much nicer parts - I live about 1600km (allow 4-5 days for a comfortable drive: there's a lot of windy bits) drive south of Auckland and have lived all over NZ , with the last 15 yrs in the South Island, which has much lower population and is more scenic than the other one, if you want any other info pls PM me
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@unearthed said:
Hi Mike, Why Auckland (I lived there 12 yrs)?, is it for a job, because if not there're much nicer parts - I live about 1600km (allow 4-5 days for a comfortable drive: there's a lot of windy bits) drive south of Auckland and have lived all over NZ , with the last 15 yrs in the South Island, which has much lower population and is more scenic than the other one, if you want any other info pls PM me
Auckland is where Rob's extended family is located, so naturally that is where they will base themselves. Thanks for you kind offer and I will most definitely ask any questions that crop up.
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Mike
One of the real concerns with fracking is the amount of clean surface, and in some cases ground water it takes to frack a well or shale bed, as this is the main medium the in the fracking fluid.
In areas of Alberta where there is heavy fracking there is a noticeable depletion of surface water. Fracking is up for review there this year and there are rumblings it may be stopped. However, the cynic in me doubts it, as I have yet to see money not trump environmental concerns. -
@dale said:
Mike
One of the real concerns with fracking is the amount of clean surface, and in some cases ground water it takes to frack a well or shale bed, as this is the main medium the in the fracking fluid.
In areas of Alberta where there is heavy fracking there is a noticeable depletion of surface water. Fracking is up for review there this year and there are rumblings it may be stopped. However, the cynic in me doubts it, as I have yet to see money not trump environmental concerns.Dale, I somehow agree with you when you say, '... the cynic in me doubts it, as I have yet to see money not trump environmental concerns'
I would not be surprised to see the fracking / oil companies arguing that Global Warming will solve the fresh water shortage when the Ice Caps melt
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Dale, I said that 'tongue in cheek' but at the same time!!!!!
Something I've noticed over the past 5 years since the financial crash of 2008, is that a lot of ordinary folks that otherwise took little or no notice to local, national and global politics, are now starting to take a much more serious interest and doing their own research on what their elected reps are up to.
This can be seen from the many on-line blogs, newly formed grass root groups and such. I think that there is definitely a mass movement, although uncoordinated, that wishes to take more direct and ongoing control over their lives and not leave their fate in the hand of a few for periods of 5 years plus at a time.
The WWW is probably one of the main reasons for the resurgence of 'People Power', however we have a long way to go to get back to some kind of true democracy
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The money/bank system is one of the main keys to understanding our world.
Q: The money we all use everyday for shopping, the money in our bank accounts, where do they come from?
A: They are debts.
Meaning we have a debt based money system. If all debts were repaid there would be no money in existence. Understanding this is very important.
This is the reason every nations debt is increasing. This is as pyramid scheme which demands economic growth and population growth . All because of the interest. I will simplify this by an example.
Say we have an isolated village of 10 people who are functioning with an economy like we have today. They need some money to exchange services and goods. Today this money comes from debt. Say 5 of them go to the bank and make a loan for $200 each, 10% interest. Total debt $1000. This money they use amongst themselves to exchange goods and services. 1 year later they have to pay back their loans 1000 + 10% = $1100. The problem is where do they get the 10 % from, there is not enough money to pay back the interest.
The solution: make another loan to pay the interest.
The villagers get into bigger and bigger debt, they have to work harder and harder and they soon find another temporary solution. We need more people who can make new loans and grow the economy. You see this is what all the talk about economic growth is all about. To keep the pyramid scheme going. To pay the interest on the loans.
A more detailed explanation:
http://www.permanentculturenow.com/the-real-economic-scandal-understanding-the-debt-based-economy/
http://www.bullnotbull.com/archive/our-debt-money-system.htmlThis is why they try to get carbon credits going. That is another Ponzi scheme.
Five “climate exchanges” have already been set up that deal in the buying and selling of carbon credits. The two larger exchanges are the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), and Europe’s European Climate Exchange (ECX),
There is the stock market, where stocks and bonds are traded, and a commodities market where things like gold and silver and corn, wheat and soybeans are traded. Now come the carbon exchanges where carbon credits in the form of derivatives will be bought and sold.
Banks and other entities will be buying carbon credits, packaging them up, and selling them by the trillions. This is already well in motion in Europe, where carbon offsets have been being traded since 2005.
Everyone is set up and ready to go. The big banks have been investing in carbon friendly enterprises—Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Bank of America and Citigroup are some of the players. Not to be outdone, the World Bank has joined the CCX and now operates a Carbon Fund for Europe that helps countries meet their Kyoto Protocol requirements. Major corporations, including the large oil companies, are strong supporters of cap‐and‐trade legislation and are members of these carbon exchanges as well. And remember, the emission standards do not increase with population growth or increases in the number of plants or factories or their output. They are capped and are then lowered. Therefore carbon credits will continue to rise in price, as the supply will steadily decrease, driving higher demand. Escalating profits are built in if governments mandate the standards.
And standing on deck to become the first carbon billionaire is none other than . . . Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.This is not about saving the planet it is about making money. Think about the Catholic church and indulgencies. Its exactly the same. Pay your masters some money or you are doomed.
Do anybody really believe that increase in co2 levels are the cause for the increase in meteors and eartquakes. Yes the climate is changing but not because of co2. That is a scam.To sum it up: Understanding the money system is Critical to understanding what goes on. Remember an uninformed population is very easy to control. If the powers that be had our best interest in mind we would be informed. We are getting shafted ... royaly.
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Thanks for your input Rodger. Its good to see others digging deeper into what is going on. I've been doing it for a couple of years after I started to get a 'fishy smells'
Prior to my digging around I was under the naive impression that when I got a loan from a bank they loaned me money that depositors had lodged and both the bank and the depositors got a split of the interest I paid back. In other words, if the deposits were not lodged by others, there would be no money for me to borrow and pay interest on! What an uninformed fool I was.
It looks that this magic creation of currency is now coming to an end. The puppet masters that thought up this racket did not seriously expect it to last forever and Carbon Tax is the next racket on the agenda to hoard wealth.
Al Gore! I never found him credible at any time and it looks that others think the same particularly a he seems not to practice what he preaches,
For example,
*'In February 2007, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research revealed that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president’s 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. These figures were not disputed by Gore.
“If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn’t care,” said the Center’s 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. “But he tells other people how to live and he’s not following his own rules.”*
I could not find a rebut by Gore on the Net, so I take this to be the situation until I learn otherwise ..... I doubt I will.
Its worth watching the videos on Al Gore Set To Become First “Carbon Billionaire”, here, http://www.prisonplanet.com/al-gore-set-to-become-first-carbon-billionaire.html
I think Alex Jones' comment on the first video says a lot, "Hey! Should we ban Dihydrogen monoxide, its bad for the environment!" The average person will sign your petition for the banning of water! Yes, Dihydrogen monoxide is water'
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I have more or less always felt something is not right With this system. In 2008/2009 I decided to find out more about the economy. I have learned more the last 5 years than the 40 years before 2008. It is just mind boggling what is really going on.
The good thing is this knowledge can really empower you after the initial shocks. So I keep on reading books and watching movies.We have not noticed much of anything here in Norway yet, so I am wondering how it will be when it hits here.
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@rogerb said:
We have not noticed much of anything here in Norway yet, so I am wondering how it will be when it hits here.
From what I have been reading about Norway, the country is on a fairly sound footing. At least you guys would appear to have developed your own natural resources (oil) and not allowed the big multi nationals to rape the country.
For many years the Irish were led to believe that we had little or no natural resources. Current and past governments have more or less given these resources away for pennies! It now looks that Ireland has substantial oil / gas recourses in OUR part of the Atlantic. Hopefully we will follow Norway's example and learn how to develop these resources ourselves ...... but again that would involve electing politicians with some gray matter or at least honest! Maybe in time, hopefully.
Just watching what is happening in the Ukraine. It looks that it will take some time for the EU or Russia debate to be resolved.
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A recent article by Francesco Alberoni (a sociologist, journalist and writer. Italian)
An x-ray of Italy based on an incident.
The final sentence is very significant ...--------------------If in the last century the people of Kerala had done captured two British soldiers , Britain would have just given the order to free them.
Things of the past tell me , has now disappeared from the colonial era . But imagine now that Italians all take a ship from two U.S. marines and want to trial for terrorism. The U.S. government would require us for their immediate release . And the same would happen with Russian soldiers , Chinese or Indian . What allows India to take our marines prisoners , transferring them from one side to the other , capriciously to postpone the dates of the process is the fact of being a great power with respect to which we are a nazioncina trembling and that counts for nothing that no one's interests to defend . In fact, even the UN has responded to 're on our own . The only entity which according to some is the European Union should intervene . But it is an illusion to think so.
The European Union does not have a state, not a government, not an economic policy , foreign policy , an army. Can not print money , put duties , establish immigration quotas , do not even have a border police. Ie it is not a great power in a condition to communicate on the same plane with the other . Something in our favor could do nations like England, France and Germany , but , beyond the words of the facade, did not care . In Europe, Italy is in a position of absolute subordination , it is always under attack , he must constantly account for everything he does . It is the last of the class. And this makes us uncertain , timid , clumsy . India had cleverly found a way to return the two marines in Italy , but we, too fearful, we sent them to him back.
The case of the sailor is just one example of the confusion that is now Italy . In all fields. And it is unnatural that continues . Especially in physics, as in biology or in social systems , when the disorder exceeds a certain threshold is always an unpredictable reaction that sweeps away the old and unable to renew reconstitutes the social order on a new basis . We are very close to this time.
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