Mon$anto vs. Mother Earth
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@escapeartist said:
@mics_54 said:
what, no cheering for Boston?
What the heck's that supposed to mean?
I assumed it's a baseball thing and not today's events.
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Hope so.
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@mics_54 said:
what, no cheering for Boston?
I think it might be a real sensible idea to retract that.
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@mics_54 said:
what, no cheering for Boston?
Did you have a drink or 10 too many...?
What kind of argument is that...??
Grow up...!
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In less than an hour people were claiming the USA deserved it.
They weren't tea partiers.
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@mics_54 said:
In less than an hour people were claiming the USA deserved it.
They weren't tea partiers.
Really?
But we did get Fox news (tea party member) contributors doing this..
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And how about this:
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was he over reacting?
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Dollard is right on!
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@mics_54 said:
was he over reacting?
Wow!! seriously wow!! you are one sick hateful person, without any confirmation you have decided an entire group of people have no right to exist.
And this does not define you?
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@mics_54 said:
Dollard is right on!
Quick history lesson 9-11 was on G W Bush's watch...just saying.
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yeah funded by money Clinton gave to the Taliban after he screwed the tribal leaders that were working with the US
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Whoa is that a fwd from your email? friends of yours?
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@mics_54 said:
Dollard is right on!
Hard to believe that we're from the same planet...
We're definitely not on the same page and far from being in the same book...!Michael... How can you say such stupid things...??
How can you claim that Dollard is "right on"...??
How can Barac Obama get blamed for such an act...??
How can you agree that GWB kept US safe for 8 years...?
Why don't you blame GWB for the 911 attack...?
Why did it happen during his period...?
What kind of argument is this...?Neighter GWB nor Barac Obama can be blamed for acts of terrorism...
It's cowards and extremists who are doing such things...!A few Muslims are extremists, and likewise there's extremists among other people - being it religion or politics - they're are from all nationalities...
Extremists cannot put things into perspective...!
They're psychopaths who have a particular believing and regardless of what you tell them, they continue to believe that they're right...With the behavior and arguments you've shown in this thread, I fear that you're an extremist...!
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What an offensive little invertebrate you have proven yourself to be.
You joined this thread with a disparaging remark and went downhill from there. You have offered no reputable evidence or even argument, you make pointless statements, you don't answer questions and whine that nobody reads your drivel. You have no understanding of intellectual debate.Extremist: Yes
Psychopath: Yes
Sociopath: Most certainlyI made the decision to ignore you at first, as everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you have shown yourself to be a disturbed individual. People like you scuttle around in the dark places all around us. We try to ignore you. The problem with that is, it's those same scuttlers that run riot with guns or plant bombs.
Your radical and extremist views no doubt affect those around you. You wouldn't have been the class bully, but you would have been close to him and egged him on and used him against anyone who you felt deserved your ire. Your Family and acquaintances all have my heartfelt sympathy.
I can't wait for your scathing and witty rejoinder, I'm sure I'll be cut to the quick, I've been know to watch Startrek Voyager if that helps give you some ideas.
What a waste of space.
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Wait for it...
Now comes the persecuted right winger card. Everything and everyone has a liberal bias.
I guess the world is flat, no matter what. And if it's round, it's probably the liberal's fault anyway.
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mics_54 words fail me with people like you. Why don't you pull your foreskin over your head and disappear down your dick.
BTW don't bother replying to a "whiney EUROPEAN" as I won't be reading it!
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Okay, lets get back on topic, I'll try ignore the troll.
I may be a liberal but that does not mean everything Pres Obama does I agree with, like signing the protection bill....ugh! he promised he would push for labeling GMO's but did a 180.
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Yep, back to topic.
What we are really addressing here is the cumulative effects of Industrialisation, Globalisation, Market forces and Human nature.
The industrial development of farming made it possible to produce, not just more than the farmer could consume, but his local community as well. This surplus combined with ease of movement and reduced transport costs fuels globalisation. If you have more than you can use locally then ship it somewhere else and make a profit there. All well and good on a commercial level. But things can be taken to extremes. The old adage, Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, fits the commercial world as comfortably as it does the political.
The very basis of capitalism pushes us toward it. The small businessman is urged to plough his profits back into his business to make it grow. Same goes for large corporations. The larger the profit the more money and power you have to influence how you can grow your profits. And realistically a corporation has no built in moral compass, it can grow to be a monster or a saint. It is run by people, with all their faults and personal opinions, but it develops a life of it's own over time and tends to run itself, and is very much controlled by market forces.Human nature makes us all rather self centred, at least in the sense that we see the world around us from our own perspective. Generally speaking we want to feel secure, have enough to eat and be able to afford some luxuries. Pretty much all a caveman ever wanted too. A warm dry cave, a hunk of dead animal to eat and the possibility of some nice tasty honey if he made the effort of raiding a beehive.
But we live in an industrialised world where everything is there for the taking. Cheap food readily available. No need to think about what to hunt for, time is now available to put our considerable intellects to use on other things. Great thoughts will abound and someone else will bring us food.The problem with that is the food they are bringing isn't good. I'm not even going to touch on whether GMOs are good or bad,the rest of it is doing us enough damage. Over processed, sugar filled, tasteless crap. Chosen for it's pleasing colour and shape, or reformed into something it isn't. So many food products have been so heavily altered by selective breeding that they are almost nothing like the originals.
The descendent of the dinosaurs, the chicken, and the humble Tomato spring to mind. Lovely big red tomatoes bred for size and colour, oooops we forgot the taste and smell. The chicken you buy for next to nothing in the supermarket bred to grow so fast that it's body is unable to support it, never-mind, it's packed in with so many others it won't fall over. All sorts of chemicals and drugs forced into animals to produce the cheapest meat, then processed and more additives thrown in.My point here being, you get what you vote for. If you accept what is on offer then you have voted for it. Market forces are the polls of the system. If you build it they will come, if you buy it they will continue to produce it.
So, we need food, we gradually accept the changes the food industry make, that's human nature, we tend to believe what we are told and go along to get along. We increase the amount of sugar in our diets because the food industry wants to add it, because it makes it tasty and we want more of it. Accidental result, food industry happens to make more money.
It's simple, we buy it, they will produce it. Don't buy it they won't produce it.
Look at what you buy and try to buy the best within your budget, and by "the best" I don't mean the nicest looking. These days more and more healthy organic food is available. Often people say it's too expensive, but everyone I know who has moved away from cheap to better has found the benefits far outweigh any perceived increase in cost. To show it on a personal level, since I educated myself about better eating I have lost 40kg which has got my blood pressure back to healthy, my cholesterol is perfect and assorted other health issues have been fixed. So, not only do I not spend anything on corporate food, I nolonger pay anything to the pharmaceutical industry. If we all did it, then the corporations would have to follow. But it's a big "IF"There is no science in this, only common sense as I see it.
Eat smart, live longer, and change the world for the better one meal at a time.
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