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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Did you look at the Hello World example I posted at BitBucket for compiling on Windows and OSX PPC/Intel?

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        designingcrime
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        @thomthom said:

        Did you look at the Hello World example I posted at BitBucket for compiling on Windows and OSX PPC/Intel?

        Yeah I can get that to compile fine. Where run into problems is linking curllib (or in general linking a c library in wndows) which Is not an issue with your Hello World Example since it doesn't reference any 3rd party libraries

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          I'd be very interested in hearing how you get on with it and any description/mini-tutorial if you would care to do one. I'm very fresh to C so I'd love to learn this.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            ishboo
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            I talked to my colleague and we're gonna try to hack on it this Saturday at our weekly hackathon. Will update if we get around to it. πŸ˜„

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            • Dan RathbunD Offline
              Dan Rathbun
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              As as I mentioned before.. there are already Ruby bindings.

              Curb looks like the most recent, it was last updated June 29, 2012:
              http://rubygems.org/gems/curb

              I'm not here much anymore.

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              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                Dan Rathbun
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                Stay away from Cygwin.

                If you cannot use MSVS.. at least use MingGW.

                Here's the link to download the source (which comes with precompiled binaries for curl.exe)
                http://curl.haxx.se/gknw.net/7.26.0/dist-w32/curl-7.26.0-devel-mingw32.zip

                OR.. if you just simply want the precompiled binaries (without source):
                http://curl.haxx.se/gknw.net/7.26.0/dist-w32/curl-7.26.0-rtmp-ssh2-ssl-sspi-zlib-idn-static-bin-w32.zip
                Has both pre-compiled curl.exe and libcurl.dll, as well as a few more dll files.


                And how to build on various platforms:
                http://curl.haxx.se/docs/install.html

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                  ishboo
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                  Thanks for the links Dan πŸ‘

                  @dan rathbun said:

                  As as I mentioned before.. there are already Ruby bindings.

                  Curb looks like the most recent, it was last updated June 29, 2012:
                  http://rubygems.org/gems/curb

                  I would assume this would mean the end user would need to install the gem for it to work?

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @ishboo said:

                    I talked to my colleague and we're gonna try to hack on it this Saturday at our weekly hackathon. Will update if we get around to it. πŸ˜„

                    πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      @dan rathbun said:

                      Stay away from Cygwin.

                      If you cannot use MSVS.. at least use MingGW.

                      Why is this?

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • Dan RathbunD Offline
                        Dan Rathbun
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                        @ishboo said:

                        Thanks for the links Dan πŸ‘

                        @dan rathbun said:

                        As as I mentioned before.. there are already Ruby bindings.

                        Curb looks like the most recent, it was last updated June 29, 2012:
                        http://rubygems.org/gems/curb

                        I would assume this would mean the end user would need to install the gem for it to work?

                        Well, no... gems do not work with Sketchup embedded Ruby.

                        Actually want is probably needed is to look at the handfull of gems and write a Sketchup friendly "clone".

                        I'm not here much anymore.

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                        • Dan RathbunD Offline
                          Dan Rathbun
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                          @thomthom said:

                          @dan rathbun said:

                          Stay away from Cygwin.

                          If you cannot use MSVS.. at least use MingGW.

                          Why is this?

                          My advice. (From what I have read.)

                          If you want expert advice, ask Luis Lavena over at the Ruby Installer project forum.

                          I'm not here much anymore.

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                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                            Dan Rathbun
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                            On this subject:

                            Redirecting to Google Groups

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                            (groups.google.com)

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                              designingcrime
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                              Hey guys, so I finally got a Ruby C extension to compile on both os x and windows and link curllib. I got a lot of help from Luis at the RubyInstaller group and ended up using RubyInstaller and DevKit to link curl and build using the gcc compiler included with devkit.
                              Here is the extension. Its a modified version of Dana's sketchup downloader, but also included uploading, basic http authentication and ssl certificate checking(all through curl). I provided instructions on how to build on both os x and windows.

                              https://github.com/sunglass/SunglassPlugins/tree/master/SG-SketchupHook/src/Connection%20Manager

                              Thanks for all your help guys.

                              Dana - Lets get your Sketchup downloader plugin working.

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                @designingcrime said:

                                Hey guys, so I finally got a Ruby C extension to compile on both os x and windows and link curllib. I got a lot of help from Luis at the RubyInstaller group and ended up using RubyInstaller and DevKit to link curl and build using the gcc compiler included with devkit.
                                Here is the extension. Its a modified version of Dana's sketchup downloader, but also included uploading, basic http authentication and ssl certificate checking(all through curl). I provided instructions on how to build on both os x and windows.

                                https://github.com/sunglass/SunglassPlugins/tree/master/SG-SketchupHook/src/Connection%20Manager

                                Thanks for all your help guys.

                                Dana - Lets get your Sketchup downloader plugin working.

                                 :heart_eyes:
                                

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  ishboo
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                                  That's awesome news! Congrats!

                                  I'll have a look at it soon and try to finish up the tool πŸ˜„

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                                    Anton_S
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                                    Lets, say I compile a HelloWorldEx on windows7, will it be the same as compiling it on XP?

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                                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                      Dan Rathbun
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                                      I would think it would depend upon which MSVC runtime you use.

                                      Which ever you use, the user(s) will need to have that version installed on their machine(s), regardless of whether they are running Win5.1 (XP,) Win6.0 (Vista) or Win6.1 (Win7.)

                                      SketchUp itself lists MSVC ver 8.x (2005) as a dependent assembly in it's manifest.

                                      There ARE some programmers that have compiled extensions and linked to ver 10 (2010), but they must give the Microsoft download link to install that runtime version, and list it as a dependancy.

                                      Reference:
                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_C++

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                                        Anton_S
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                                        @dan rathbun said:

                                        Which ever you use, the user(s) will need to have that version installed on their machine(s), regardless of whether they are running Win5.1 (XP,) Win6.0 (Vista) or Win6.1 (Win7.)

                                        Hmm, I have win7 and windowns XP mode virtual pc, on the same comp.

                                        Under Win6.1(win7), I recompiled win32/api.so to my own namespace with a name changed to win32/msp_api.so. ( MSPhysics::Win32::API)
                                        It worked pretty well, until I've desided test it on WinXP mode virtual pc. WinXPmode had ruby-186-27, SU8, and some more raw programs, though it did not have MSVC.
                                        Then, I started SU 8 and got this error:
                                        msp_api.so without msft visual c++

                                        Before I installed msvc 2010, I desided to test the native win32/api.so and seeing it working wasn't expected; Apperently the native win32/api.so worked pretty well, without showing any errors, and without msvc.

                                        Being a little confused I desided to download msvc 2010 Redistributable Package (x86), to test whether my win32/msp_api.so would actually work on XPmode. After downloading, it worked now, but there was one question left: How did native win32/api.somanaged to work without msvc? ❓

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
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                                          @dan rathbun said:

                                          There ARE some programmers that have compiled extensions and linked to ver 10 (2010), but they must give the Microsoft download link to install that runtime version, and list it as a dependancy.

                                          No - you don't have to link to the runtime.
                                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=41077&start=105#p411657

                                          After a simple change in a compiler flag I could use the .so without the runtime installed.

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                            Dan Rathbun
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                                            @anton_s said:

                                            How did native win32/api.somanaged to work without msvc?

                                            Because the SketchUp Installer installs MSVC 8.x (2005) runtime if it is not installed. The MSVC runtime install, might seem transparent to the user installing SketchUp, if they do not pay close attention.

                                            Most XP machines will likely already have this older MSVC ".NET" runtime version installed if Automatic Windows Updates are turned ON.

                                            I'm not here much anymore.

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