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    deanlegg
    last edited by 22 May 2012, 19:44

    Hi all

    Could any one give me any feed back on this card

    I'm looking at a new card up to $300

    So any card similar please let me know your recommendations
    I run dual screens

    Thanks dean

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      fuzzion
      last edited by 23 May 2012, 03:37

      560ti is already an overkill. I use 460gtx and thats an overkill. SU uses Opengl and is not highly optimised. The only reason to get a super 6 core i7 cpu is for vray for sketchup. otherwise a dual core is more then enuf for SU.

      "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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        sketch3d.de
        last edited by 23 May 2012, 12:18

        @fuzzion said:

        The only reason to get a super 6 core i7 cpu is for vray for sketchup. otherwise a dual core is more then enuf for SU.

        SU modeling runs on one core only, which does not mean that it does not take advantage of a high clocked core i7 even running on one kernel only. Recent dual core CPUs are regularly not very fast because optimized for low power consumption (intel Atom, AMD E450) and/or low cost.

        As Josh already said, do not invest to much in the graphics card (at least for SU), a GeForce for roughly 150U$ is sufficient.

        N.

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          deanlegg
          last edited by 23 May 2012, 14:49

          One reason to upgrade is when I zoom in on a construction line it disappears, zoom out and you can see it again
          Odd

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            david.
            last edited by 23 May 2012, 16:36

            I've got a GTX 550 Ti for $200. It's the fastest, most capable card I've ever owned. It is great for other GPU intensive applications that I run, not just SU. Despite what the others are saying, I always recommend getting the best graphics card that's within budget.

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              sketch3d.de
              last edited by 23 May 2012, 17:04

              @david. said:

              ...I always recommend getting the best graphics card that's within budget.

              I always recommend getting the fastest CPU (not GPU) that's within the budget... and am sure that this is more successful for getting the best speed inside SU.

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                deanlegg
                last edited by 23 May 2012, 17:18

                My problem is when I zoom in on a construction line it disappears, zoom out and you can see it again
                So would this be a card problem
                My pc is pretty powerful with i 7 processor and 6 gb memory dell

                Dean

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                  deanlegg
                  last edited by 23 May 2012, 17:22

                  PS in best buy they had 2 different size boxes for 560ti and $70 different
                  I read the boxes and they seemed the same so no idea why the size or price difference!!

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                    sketch3d.de
                    last edited by 23 May 2012, 17:57

                    @deanlegg said:

                    My problem is when I zoom in on a construction line it disappears, zoom out and you can see it again
                    So would this be a card problem

                    depends, if you are using a so called 'shared Video' solution as e.g. the intel GMA series maaybe.

                    Switch off the OpenGL hardware acceleration of SU under "Windows > Preferences > OpenGL" and you will know, i.e. if everything is fine then, you graphics card does not fully support OpenGL and you should upgrade you system to something capable (see above).

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                      daiku
                      last edited by 23 May 2012, 18:25

                      I've experimented with faster video cards, and it really doesn't make SU any faster. It might be because nvidia disables certain features in their "GeForce" "gaming" models. Their "CAD" models, which go under the "Quadro" brand use identical technology, but enable these features. I believe "Quadro" is Spanish for "costs four times as much for the same hardware". But I've never had a Quadro in my machine, so I can't give any first-hand advice.

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                        JGA
                        last edited by 23 May 2012, 20:47

                        We have nvidia Quadro cards at work & have to admit little difference for SketchUP, but do seem more reliable for AutoCAD etc.
                        I have a GTX 560 ti at home, it's a little noiser that I hoped for, but better than the office FX1800 card. No problem with SketchUP.

                        Regards,
                        JGA

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                          fuzzion
                          last edited by 24 May 2012, 02:38

                          The reason for going i7 is that other then what has been stated above is that you can

                          1)Run intel extreme overclocking utility to get the turbo boost to run to 4+ ghz air cooled on single core use.

                          2)Plugins can be , as confirmed by plugin programmers on the forum made to run on two cores. Only seen this on TGI plugins.

                          3)Run 2 sessions of SU seamlessly with other background programs running.

                          "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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                            david.
                            last edited by 24 May 2012, 17:57

                            @sketch3d.de said:

                            @david. said:

                            ...I always recommend getting the best graphics card that's within budget.

                            I always recommend getting the fastest CPU (not GPU) that's within the budget... and am sure that this is more successful for getting the best speed inside SU.

                            It's a combination of CPU and GPU. The OP was asking about GPU's, that's what I answered. That said, I always try to get the best of both that are within budget. There is no reason to go cheap on a GPU (or CPU) if you've got the budget. To say that you don't need a fast GPU for SU is misleading, especially for complex models. I know because I've used mid-range and high-end GPU's. The high end GPU made a huge difference in SU performance.

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                              deanlegg
                              last edited by 25 May 2012, 14:27

                              Anyone have an opinon on the construction line issue?

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                                ak-sam
                                last edited by 7 Jun 2012, 11:33

                                @david. said:

                                . I know because I've used mid-range and high-end GPU's. The high end GPU made a huge difference in SU performance.

                                Hmm this is interesting news to me.

                                I'm about to purchase a PC for sketchup (and rendering with Indigo 3.0) and hadn't factored in a powerful GPU.. In fact i was planning to go with the fastest CPU i can afford and use ivybridge onboard video.

                                It would be great to hear some experiences from people who have actually tried i5, i7, overclocked cpus and various GPUs... I've done a mountain of research but very little evidence points to any particular setup being ideal. Overclocked sandybridge EE, probably?

                                My everyday workstation is new, 6-core xeon (watercooled), quadro 4000, SSD, etc.
                                Of course it runs sketch up very well, and is awesome for rendering, but it cost a fortune...well above my home pc budget!

                                i think i might have to head to a few shops and take along free sketchup and one of my models with lots of 3d trees!

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