UK Riots
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@roger said:
This is by and large an intelligent group. Don't ask us to accept anything written by Ann Coulter other than a suicide note.
From that statement, your definition of intelligent is quite different than mine. Assuming you fall into the category, it is a good example of the hypocrisy of the left wing. Sounds like you're not far from joining the thugs on the streets of London.
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@unknownuser said:
Here is an interesting article, The Sun Never Sets On The British Welfare System.
David, with all due respect, Ann Coulter??? really??
I'm sorry but I would not even believe a suicide note she writes as even that will contain lies and bullshit.
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We are paying for sins of our fathers. What will we pass on to our children? We should not make excuses for criminal behavoir which is what society has told us. There has to be some uderlying reason...The reason is immorality. You can be poor and not be a criminal. And you can be a criminal and not be poor. Lets stop making excuses for bad behavoir and punish those who break the rules. Making excuse for those who commit these crimes only enables and gives justice to their illegitimate acts. There are still civil ways to sovle problems. Being poor from where I come from and what I have experienced is a result of the individuals lack of acquiring knowlege and/or equipping themselves with a skills that someone else finds valuable. I know a lot of poor people who are not and never have been criminals. There are no excuses!
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@david. said:
Social Justice is a planned term used by ideologues to convince the non-ideologues to accept wealth redistribution.
A certain degree of wealth redistribution is the backbone of any civilized society.
As for Ann Coulter - she's a fruitcake:
"With the terrible earthquake and resulting tsunami that have devastated Japan, the only good news is that anyone exposed to excess radiation from the nuclear power plants is now probably much less likely to get cancer.
This only seems counterintuitive because of media hysteria for the past 20 years trying to convince Americans that radiation at any dose is bad. There is, however, burgeoning evidence that excess radiation operates as a sort of cancer vaccine."
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@unknownuser said:
I know a lot of poor people who are not and never have been criminals.
lapx The reason is immorality.****There are no excuses!
now that sounds good too
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I've never come across Ms Coulter before. What an incredibly ignorant, opinionated moron. Tea Party I suppose.
The police put the total number of yobs involved in these disturbances at around 2000 NATIONALLY...maybe half that in London. That is 2,000 out of 60 million people, limited in a few fairly small urban areas. What is at least as significant is all the rest of the places it didn't happen...like Glasgow, or indeed anywhere in Scotland , which has some of the worst deprivation in W. Europe. Nothing in Wales either...or the vast majority of England, including other large urban areas like Newcastle.
And from this she extrapolates national meltdown; what a plonker. At least we still have a AAA rating.
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So, Alan, you used to teach, huh? Ann Coulter: "[Obama] was suspiciously verbose about saving the jobs of public schoolteachers. Because nothing says "economic stimulus" better than saving the jobs of lethargic incompetents who kick off at 2 p.m. every day and get summers off. Actually, that's not fair: Some teachers spend long hours after school having sex with their students."
She's ... special.
As was that sultry blonde physics temp we had one year. Sadly, my advances didn't yield the desired result. -
Yep, used to teach...before I wised-up and joined the private sector by setting up my own business. Nothing remotely like the same workload and a helluva lot less stress.
My wife still gets all that bull about short working day and long holidays. It's a bit like claiming that newsreaders get paid their princely sums for working 30 mins per day minus commercial breaks.
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@unknownuser said:
Juan Love, Juan Heart
thankyou Rich O´Brian, watch this way to solve social problems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCLq3yqTMaM
i am very sorry it is in Spanish and not in English but i would like a lot that it can be guessed how to achieve the good things just watching it. Salud ¡@earthmover said:
Even if you feel this generation to be lost, you must find compassion in your heart for the children born into this desperate tinder box of shared insignificance.
that was very good to say now i think everybody agrees with that how does one gets love ?
A tighter lid and hotter fire will only cause the lid to blow even harder the next time. In the U.S. we tried to do the same thing for many decades and for many decades, people suffered. Generations will be born and bred to hate your country for it's subjugation of the under privileged. Until you learn to see this as a social justice issue first, things will not change. EarthMover -
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If you're not familiar with Ann Coulter, she likes to use hyperbole. Clearly, there is underlying animosity within the underclass in the UK. She believes that the welfare state is a contributor. I'm curious as to why there is an underclass in the UK at all? What with the welfare state and all.
I do know that I grew up poor, but I didn't know it at the time. It didn't occur to me to expect to depend on the welfare state for my subsistence. I certainly would have never considering destroying other people's property. Now, I own my own home, no mortgage. No debts at all other than the one the US government's profligate spending has inflicted on me and the 50% of the rest of the workers that pay income taxes. The remaining 50% pay no income taxes at all. Every experience I have tells me that it is not a good idea to pay people not to work except for a short time in the event of an unexpected job loss.
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I was trying to understand the underlying issues, now I'm just appalled. This is just outrageous. Call in the Calvary and institute Martial Law immediately!
[flash=800,600:kdtgum8a]http://www.youtube.com/v/GmU_wexOQt4&feature=feedf[/flash:kdtgum8a]
Sorry to make light.
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@earthmover said:
I was trying to understand the underlying issues, now I'm just appalled. This is just outrageous. Call in the Calvary and institute Martial Law immediately!
[flash=800,600:1ir53tdw]http://www.youtube.com/v/GmU_wexOQt4&feature=feedf[/flash:1ir53tdw]
Sorry to make light.
The Brits are typically understated. What you see there is the UK equivalent of the LA Watts riots. -
@david. said:
@roger said:
This is by and large an intelligent group. Don't ask us to accept anything written by Ann Coulter other than a suicide note.
From that statement, your definition of intelligent is quite different than mine. Assuming you fall into the category, it is a good example of the hypocrisy of the left wing. Sounds like you're not far from joining the thugs on the streets of London.
I am certain that my definition is different. As to joining the street thugs, I think along the lines of Pogo's creator, Walt Kelly, who said he did not trust the "extreme left, the extreme right or the extreme center."
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@roger said:
The Brits are typically understated. What you see there is the UK equivalent of the LA Watts riots.
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OK guys, but do not forget that you still have something to do****,.-)
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Rioting in a democracy is an interesting phenomenon. What are people rioting against? If the system is a democracy then the voters have taken part in the election of the leaders they are protesting. However, a democracy also grants voting rights to the stupid, the mentally defect, the easily influenced, the lazy -- many who end up protesting their own choice of laws and leaders.
Ironically, even when the disenfranchised become a majority, they lack the cohesiveness, and social self awareness to band together and use their numerical superiority to vote the bums out of office. They end up resorting to emotion, and rage rather than intelligent problem solving.
Democracy is so flawed and at the same time so superior to any other real world (as opposed to theoretical) political system. Education is important to improve the process. What really hurts is when freely available education becomes and easy target of cost cutters. Economists are important tools, but they are tools and not leaders. The only way to improve a democracy is to make education available to all. In fact, it needs to be actively promoted and not just economically protected.
That is my rant for the day. I am just running it up the flag pole to see who salutes. I reserve the right to change directions at a moments notice.
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