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    • michaliszissiouM Offline
      michaliszissiou
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      +1 notareal
      But how to construct normal maps? Except of using sculpting tools like blender, 3dcoat or zbrush or Mb. A known plug of gimp bakes normals from image but I believe that these work as bumps, haven't seen any difference.
      Let me show you what could happen after 3 subs in geometry.
      Except if there was a way to use loops in SU modeling, but this is a wish. I know that there are subdivision plugins but this doesn't belong to SU UI exactly.


      testSUBS.jpg

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        notareal
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        Obvious way is to create normal map from a high poly model with blender or some other suitable tool, but that's not the only way. Other ways are with photography or 3d scanning.
        Also there are programs that can calculate 3d space based on few photos and then generate normal map.
        http://zarria.net/nrmphoto/nrmphoto.html

        Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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        • majidM Offline
          majid
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          thanks Notareal , verry informative

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            harnstein
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            @notareal said:

            Obvious way is to create normal map from a high poly model with blender or some other suitable tool, but that's not the only way. Other ways are with photography or 3d scanning.
            Also there are programs that can calculate 3d space based on few photos and then generate normal map.
            http://zarria.net/nrmphoto/nrmphoto.html

            Thanks for that information- i never cared much for normal maps (as far as searching for textures on the web and creating bump maps for them worked quite well)..

            OT: now i ran into difficulties wanting to have a stacked stone wall with several stones coming out. So i 'm giving it a try to make displacement maps for that.. :OT

            Its possible building up some high-poly model (which would take ages to render eg. rocks) light them from 4 sides and export the result. Add them in PS and generate a normal map. Use diffuse lit rendering of the high-poly model as texture on flat surface and add the generated normal map.

            Maybe not the same high quality result but timesaving. Correct?

            still sketchin'

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              notareal
              last edited by

              If you have high poly model you simply can bake a normal map from it with blender or some other program and use that normal map for a low poly model. No need for lighting tricks.

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              • michaliszissiouM Offline
                michaliszissiou
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                @unknownuser said:

                If you have high poly model you simply can bake a normal map from it with blender or some other program and use that normal map for a low poly model. No need for lighting tricks.

                UVs first of course. Try to have less seams-islands as possible though, they tend to be visible on normal maps.
                To light and bake textures is a great dirty trick though, useful for less capable rendering engines than Thea. In this case prefer AO lighting only, no other lights.
                I posted here some rocks baked this way, sometime ago. http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=31246&start=15
                You can download the low poly rock and play with it. I also posted low def versions of bumps and normal maps, try to play with them. A 2048x2048 texture map works much better though.

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                • Bryan KB Offline
                  Bryan K
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                  Wow. I really like the last image.

                  See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                  • majidM Offline
                    majid
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                    thanx mates , for sharing. here is another gray scale using Thea CRF option.


                    5.jpg

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                    • michaliszissiouM Offline
                      michaliszissiou
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                      Wow nice one majid. ๐Ÿ‘

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                      • Bryan KB Offline
                        Bryan K
                        last edited by

                        Wow.

                        Tri-X Pan. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                        See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                          harnstein
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                          Thanks michaliszissiou and noareal- good information, i was wondering what people meant when they talked about baked.. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Majid, great renders!

                          still sketchin'

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