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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      @jessejames said:

      This whole thread is in my option a waste of time. You need to listen more to Dan Rathburn because he is on the right track.

      One could say - if you don't like the thread - don't read it. πŸ˜’

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • Chris FullmerC Offline
        Chris Fullmer
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        @thomthom said:

        One could say - if you don't like the thread - don't read it. πŸ˜’

        I'm desperately trying to do just that, but somehow I am compelled to keep reading in hopes that I might begin to comprehend what the thread is talking about. πŸ˜†

        So when we're talking Mac compatibilty in this thread, are you mostly thinking about the apps that write the program, or are you also referring to scripts that have been written on one platform not working on the other platform? So far I have not ever run into that (that I know of). Is it common?

        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
        All my Plugins I've written

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          driven
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          @chris fullmer said:

          So when we're talking Mac compatibilty in this thread, are you mostly thinking about the apps that write the program, or are you also referring to scripts that have been written on one platform not working on the other platform? So far I have not ever run into that (that I know of). Is it common?

          Chris, your input is very helpful, please bare with the meanderings. they do tie together.

          This thread is primarily an inquiry into 'cross platform' editor compatibility

          my input is Mac'centric' because I own Mac's and whilst there are mentions of problems here and there I couldn't find an appropriate thread dealing with potential solutions.

          there is even less information for anyone trying to find a solution for those using Linux or variants

          The answer may be that there is no single solution, unless Google suddenly packages up SU Plugin development kit

          @chris fullmer said:

          So far I have not ever run into that (that I know of). Is it common?

          it's possible you haven't, most 'ruby' scripts are fine, unless complex. it's when you start move away from just 'ruby' that it all goes pear shaped

          You would notice more if on a Mac, there's a lot of PC only scripts.

          Martin, I hope you saw my apology, and perceive it as such. I put your absence down to workload and it hadn't occurred that I may have 'driven' you away... thanks for pointing it out jessejames...

          john

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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          • J Offline
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            @driven said:

            Martin, I hope you saw my apology, and perceive it as such. I put your absence down to workload and it hadn't occurred that I may have 'driven' you away... thanks for pointing it out jessejames

            Thanks John for apologizing and i now hold a great respect for you. Anyone can make mistakes, but only the truly honorable have the capacity to admit them. Thank you!

            Always sleep with a loaded gun under your pillow!

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            • chrisglasierC Offline
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              @chris fullmer said:

              ... Is it common?

              I am not really qualified to participate in this debate but my experience may be helpful in the light of Chris's comment.

              I have published two plugins - cgScenes and nset SketchupAPI and I am working on an expansion of these to provide deeper hierarchies and greater control of scenes and components, unlimited links to data from local and remote sources and analytical animation.

              These use web dialogs, which seem to me to be an important link to get Sketchup models to the general population to serve as transporters of reusable data. cgScenes works on a Mac only because of extensive work by John [driven]. The problem with the other two seems (I think) to come from conversion of data stored in JSONotation.

              So whether or not you acknowledge my approach, problems with two important parts of current technology - the web and efficient data transfer - should be recognised in relation to Sketchup, Macs and PCs.

              Incompatibility may indeed be not common. If so perhaps the reason is fear of the unknown, supported by many threads here recounting the horrors. I think John has a great and noble idea how to overcome or at least find the causes of these problems and I sincerely hope you will all work together to find the means.

              Please don't shout or shoot at me; I am only an aging reluctant (and amateur) coder.

              With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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                driven
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                hi all still interested,

                I've continued pursuing a SU external editor, and currently am trying to set up http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/features/ruby_ide.html which although not free has great potential for the sorts of things being done on SU rubies. don't let the Rails credentials put you of this an almost infinitely tunable rudy ide, and settings can be shared, so once one person has the right SU build, others could try it out, tweek it more, write plugs, sounds a bit like SU.... Very powerful in the right hands but tunable for beginners. Have a look.

                In the mean time I did a little experiment with Alex's Ruby Code Editor and I thought some might be interested,
                on a Mac in SU 7.1

                it is a live editor, not photoshop, http://getfirebug.com/firebuglite it's in beta, I've only just installed it so can't report on it's full potental

                john

                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                  Dan Rathbun
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                  That IS interesting John.

                  But it's only for coding and testing WebDialogs (not Ruby.)

                  By running in Alex's Code Editor, only Alex's Code Editor is being debugged.

                  But it may have promise.

                  @ThomThom: You may find this interesting, Firebug extension for jQuery development: http://firequery.binaryage.com/

                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @dan rathbun said:

                    @ThomThom: You may find this interesting, Firebug extension for jQuery development: http://firequery.binaryage.com/

                    πŸ‘ πŸ‘
                    Nice find!
                    Hope it will eventually also work with Firebug Lite.

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • D Offline
                      driven
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                      @dan rathbun said:

                      That IS interesting John.
                      By running in Alex's Code Editor, only Alex's Code Editor is being debugged.

                      Hi Dan,
                      I've been using it to help debug Chris Glasier's nSet for Mac use, but in the process I tried it on 3 or 4 WebDiolog
                      based rubies and it seems a very useful debug tool, for that type of interactive ruby that is popular... and usually PC only. it does report .rb errors (in relation to itself)

                      I was actually trying to put syntax highlighting into RCE using a similar approach, and though I'd try this as a practice run. I should point it to my url.local and run more features, but I haven't stopped using it long enough yet...

                      has any one tried Ruby-Mine yet??

                      john

                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        @driven said:

                        has any one tried Ruby-Mine yet??

                        Afraid not. The last week I was deep into getting to grips with C programming.
                        So much to try out - so little time. 😞

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • chrisglasierC Offline
                          chrisglasier
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                          This relates to FireBugLite.

                          Can anyone tell me why this happens:

                          pig 006.png

                          and how to change what so I can see the code.

                          Thanks

                          With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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                          • Dan RathbunD Offline
                            Dan Rathbun
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                            @Chris: Do you have nsetWebDialog.set_full_security= true or false ??
                            (It defaults to false if you don't explicitly set it.)

                            I'm not here much anymore.

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                            • Dan RathbunD Offline
                              Dan Rathbun
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                              @Chris: In your webpage for nset, it would easier if you assign an ID to the SCRIPT element(s) that load the external javascript files.

                              %(#804000)[<SCRIPT ID='nset_core_js' LINK='..path../core.js'>]

                              Then in Firebug Lite, try inspecting by ID. Enter the ID name in the inspect control box. If that doesn't work, try entering:
                              document.getElementById('nset_core_js')

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                              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                Dan Rathbun
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                                Firebug page(s) to bookmark:
                                http://getfirebug.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

                                http://getfirebug.com/wiki/index.php/Firebug_Lite

                                Forum - Google Groups [EDIT-Added]
                                http://groups.google.com/group/firebug

                                I'm not here much anymore.

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                                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                  Dan Rathbun
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                                  @chrisglasier said:

                                  Can anyone tell me why this happens:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Access to restricted URI denied

                                  I suspect what's happening, is MSIE copies the code into the "Temporary Internet Files" folder, which is usually a Restricted Sites Zone (security-wise.) I've tried (in the past,) to add a specific local folder to my "Trusted Sites Zone" but MSIE refuses.

                                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                                  • chrisglasierC Offline
                                    chrisglasier
                                    last edited by

                                    @dan rathbun said:

                                    ... but MSIE refuses.

                                    Thanks for all your suggestions, which I tried ... but as you said MSIE refuses. No FireBugLite at the end of the tunnel.

                                    Thanks again.

                                    With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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                                    • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                      Dan Rathbun
                                      last edited by

                                      @dan rathbun said:

                                      @chrisglasier said:

                                      Can anyone tell me why this happens:

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Access to restricted URI denied

                                      I suspect what's happening, is MSIE copies the code into the "Temporary Internet Files" folder, which is usually a Restricted Sites Zone (security-wise.) I've tried (in the past,) to add a specific local folder to my "Trusted Sites Zone" but MSIE refuses.

                                      @Chris !!

                                      I think I was always trying the wrong thing! I was supposed to be adding the local folder to the LIZ ("Local Intranet Zone".)
                                      I stumbled upon this paper:
                                      http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb250483(v=VS.85).aspx

                                      So retry, go to Internet Options > Security (tab)
                                      Hilight "Local intranet", click the "Sites" button.
                                      On the "Local Intranet" dialog, click the "Advanced" button.
                                      See if the folder (beginning "file://") to your JS code is in the "Websites:" list, if not, add it.

                                      See if that helps FirebugLite find your JS scripts.

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                                      • chrisglasierC Offline
                                        chrisglasier
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                                        Thanks Dan I will try that and let you know (I'm at GMT + 8 btw)

                                        With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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                                        • chrisglasierC Offline
                                          chrisglasier
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                                          Here's what I got in IE:

                                          pig 013.png

                                          and still access denied in FireBugLite

                                          So I don't know

                                          With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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                                          • C Offline
                                            Chelmite
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                                            I did a search on the aptana site for "sketchup" and didn't find anything.
                                            Are there any installation instructions on how to pair up aptana and sketchup?

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            That's an interesting article.

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            You can download Aptana Studio and RadRails, but the installation process is long and complicated. Besides, if you just want a Ruby editor, downloading a 30-day evaluation version of the gigantic Aptana Studio isn't worth it.

                                            Complicated installation process? And the thing is free. http://www.aptana.org/

                                            Anyway - are you able to set breakpoints etc in SU plugin scripts and run them from Eclipse?

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