HELP setting up a SU code editor

mattscar

I agree that a SketchUp IDE would be helpful, even for newcomers, so long as it provides an intuitive UI. I usually use Notepad++, but I wrote an article that presents a simplistic Eclipse plugin that accesses SketchUp.

The plugin provides syntax coloring and single-click script execution through the SketchUp bridge, but that's about it. If this interests you guys, I'd be happy to add features. The debugger is tough, but it's not impossible.

Matt

thomthom

That's an interesting article.

@unknownuser said:

You can download Aptana Studio and RadRails, but the installation process is long and complicated. Besides, if you just want a Ruby editor, downloading a 30-day evaluation version of the gigantic Aptana Studio isn't worth it.

Complicated installation process? And the thing is free. http://www.aptana.org/

Anyway - are you able to set breakpoints etc in SU plugin scripts and run them from Eclipse?

driven

@mattscar said:

The plugin provides syntax coloring and single-click script execution through the SketchUp bridge, but that's about it. If this interests you guys, I'd be happy to add features. The debugger is tough, but it's not impossible.
Matt

Hi matt,

should I just turn this into a wish list then....

number 1 for me is Mac compatibility which the now ported, now free Aptana gives me, it also has a quite straight forward, simple ruby editor hidden in there, so can the plug added to it or is it completely separate issue?

I installed XP Pro sp3 on the Mac last week so I'll have a play with this there before asking to many naive questions, I'm sure requests

welcome aboard

john

Jim

Well, the bridge that Matt is using is a Windows-only thing - you'd need to ask TBD about the possibility of porting.

tbd

I am already looking into porting SketchUp Bridge to Mac, but it will take some time as I need to learn the internals of OSX.

mattscar

I could have sworn SketchUp had a socket interface somewhere. If we could send commands reliably over a socket, then the Java interface becomes trivial. And you can use the IDE to access SketchUp on a remote computer.

driven

Hi all,

as your online Matt (and any one else) I'm just trying to combine two rubies to print out a full xml list of my local SU ruby api.

I've taken the exporter from tomatoes_export.rb and I'm trying capture the puts from su_api.rb as it loops thru all the rubies on my local SU

I haven't got any of it working yet, I only just thought of it ...

will it work

I guess step 1 is get su_api.rb to loop the list it gathers to ruby console and copy paste the results into excel....

I want to add the list to resources template.

or is there an easy way to have an introspective, local, platform aware list....

driven

and then I found a test code to try
<a class= @Matt is this what you mean?" title="@Matt is this what you mean?" class=" img-fluid img-markdown" />

I have no idea what it means, but you probably do...


# begin code
def socket_listener(v)
   puts "r;#{v.inspect}"
   if v == "Connection closed"
      p SKSocket.disconnect
   end
end

puts "Connecting..."
p SKSocket.connect "google.com", 80
puts "Done."

puts "adding listener..."
p SKSocket.add_socket_listener { |e| socket_listener(e) }
puts "Done."

puts "Writing..."
p SKSocket.write("HEAD / HTTP/1.1\n\n")

# end code

thank you goes to Dr. YSG (ygut...@gmail.com)

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

or is there an easy way to have an introspective, local, platform aware list....

Of all the .rb/.rbs files in the Tools/Plugins file heirarchy ?

.. or the objects they create, ie: Classes / Modules / Methods, etc. ??

driven

like this

this is what my mac can find [in open SU], I went through manually, there's a few I don't recognise, and aren't on API Doc

what does #arity mean??

john

Jim

arity is the number of arguments a method accepts

def my_method(a, b) has arity of 2.

Introspection is possible. I built these charts using the same idea:
http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2008/08/sketchup-ruby-api-class-diagrams.html

But the introspection sometimes gives you bad information - look at the MaterialsObserver methods from your own list, and compare them to the names in the API docs. Maybe it's just exposing a buggy API. At any rate, the MatsObs is the only one I know for sure is returning bogus method names.

I believe that socket code snippet is mine. I used it to get Lego inventories from sites like peeron.com, and build a Component inventory. It is not officially supported and so there's no guarantee it will be around in the next version. But it's fun to play with.

chrisglasier

@driven said:

what does #arity mean??

disappointingly - the number of arguments - but I don't know what the -1's mean on your list.

driven

hi Jim,
thanks for the clear answer
the SLSocket doesn't show up at all on XP [on the same Mac] and I haven't gone through the methods on it yet,

I really need to mod the script to generate the full list automatically, so I can compare with 3 other Macs with different versions of Ruby etc and with and without scripts,

I thought I recognised at least one of TIG's, but there's other at last ones that aren't on the API as well.

I take a look at your list in the morning...

john

Dan Rathbun

An old post on SkSocket at over at GG.
http://groups.google.com/group/sketchupruby/browse_frm/thread/0b81977cc5d795ba#

driven

cheers Dan,

I found that earlier and followed the links to the test script I ran.

I posted the results because I don't how to interrupt the output, although it did show me a potentially 'protected' name, that's used in a script that just won't run on OSX on my Mac, but will on XP [same mac]

SKSocket doesn't show up under XP....

john

@ Jim, had a look at the charts, very nice

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

@ Jim, had a look at the charts, very nice

@ JIM .. dittos from me. I'd like some that we're left right hierachry, tho.

Dan Rathbun

@chrisglasier said:

@driven said:

what does #arity mean??

disappointingly - the number of arguments - but I don't know what the -1's mean on your list.

"For methods written in C, returns -1 if the call takes a variable number of arguments."
http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/html/ref_c_method.html#Method.arity

Dan Rathbun

@driven said:

SKSocket doesn't show up under XP....

Nor does:
class Sketchup::Geodesic

I have module Precision, but not the 3 methods your list shows.

I cant find (mix-in) module Smoothable (is this a plugin?)

None of the DC classes or modules are on your list.

The following classes, don't have prototypes defined (BUT SHOULD!):
UI::InputPoint [*no-proto]
UI::Menu [*no-proto]
UI::PickHelper [*no-proto]
UI::Tool [*no-proto]

Sketchup::FrameChangeObserver [*no-proto]

And then the standard extensions:
LanguageHandler ( should be moved to -> UI::LanguageHandler )
SketchupExtension (should be moved to -> Sketchup::Extension)

P.S. - I accidently opened your list in ol' plain Notepad and it of course could not handle the EOLs.
But when I opened it in Notepad++ no problem, and the app automatically switched to UNIX EOLs for that 1 file tab.

thomthom

I write my plugins in ASCII - since Ruby 1.8 only deals with ASCII. Despite the data from SU comes in as UTF-8.
I tried with UTF-8 at one point and got errors...

driven

@dan rathbun said:

@driven said:

SKSocket doesn't show up under XP....

Nor does:
class Sketchup::Geodesic
only if you don't have Geodesic.rb instaled BEFORE loading suapi.rb

I have module Precision, but not the 3 methods your list shows.
that one may be a Mac thing, I need to automate my process, you'll see why...

I cant find (mix-in) module Smoothable (is this a plugin?)
[balso, only if you don't have Geodesic.rb instaled BEFORE loading suapi.rb[/b]]

None of the DC classes or modules are on your list.
I don't have Pro installed

The following classes, don't have prototypes defined (BUT SHOULD!): why???
UI::InputPoint [*no-proto]
UI::Menu [*no-proto]
UI::PickHelper [*no-proto]
UI::Tool [*no-proto]
Not sure what you mean here, but it may come to me if they suddenly turn up

Sketchup::FrameChangeObserver [*no-proto]
Is this a Pro thing?

And then the standard extensions:
LanguageHandler ( should be moved to -> UI::LanguageHandler )
SketchupExtension (should be moved to -> Sketchup::Extension)
possibly Mac thing, but are you see the pattern emerging?

P.S. - I accidently opened your list in ol' plain Notepad and it of course could not handle the EOLs.
But when I opened it in Notepad++ no problem, and the app automatically switched to UNIX EOLs for that 1 file tab.
all the at last and google rubies are (UTF8),but sometimes other plugins arn't

Basically, it seems suapi.rb could be the basis for a de-bugger,
if it's loaded without any plugins you will get a snapshot of YOUR setup's usable content,
if you than add the atLast/Google 'advanced' rubies
if you than add 'PRO' you will get an 'advanced' 'PRO' snapshot of YOUR 'advanced PRO' setup.

Then, if we all collate our reports, we would have a three stage baseline of what actually is installed on Mac's,PC,Linux,Chrome.....

and this could be used as the library in the editor for targeting ruby's to 'levels of set-up' or at least a 'Basic SetUp' requirement comment on a script...

I know there other factors, but we can test against installed version of Ruby as well as other

this would certainly help de-bugging, wouldn't it?

I've got a folder with a basic set of rubies I found make a difference, and a manual process to go with it, anyone want meto post it?

Not for the faint hearted, but shouldn't do any damage?

john