Who knows something about Sketchupbar.com

toxicvoxel

I can't describe the mess he made cause it was a bit over my head but the computers he was able to reach could not be recovered via restore. He would also leave them a gift somewhere hidden in their network (in Grannies Word files) that would fire up on a set schedule and continue, masking itself as a network connection scanning for an entry point. Thinking it was an external attack most would never find the gremlin for a few months. In the mean time they had to have a full time guy recovering computers until they found it.

Modelhead,
I think you will find that there are less than three hundred poeple on the earth who would believe that the police would authorise or condone this type of activity. Hopefuly you are not one of them.

Gaieus

@tas_1985 said:

...last night I posted some of my project to make friendship with you, but it was removed, I fell sorry,too.
farewell

Yes, it was me. I also explained the reason and I am willing to restore your post in case you provide firm evidence that everything has been removed and you are not going to follow such a practice in the future either (you will need to make your site and forums quite transparent for this).

egoddess

We are sorry that the post has been deleted. SketchUpBAR is a nonrprofit forum for public service.Therefore, there is no service for advertising, cracking, and goods trading.

PS:
There is another site http://www.sketchupbbs.com < http://www.sketchupbbs.com>
It is a commercial services site, its administrator often copy and paste many articles from SCF to his site to reach his business purpose.
He even releases the twilight cracks in his site:
< http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1>

And there is always a “intense relationship” between us. Actually they often supplant and obloquy us in many places. I don’t know the ID Frederik is or not one of their members, I make announcement here to tell you, our friends, we love sketchup, and will never be in pocket by using your works or releasing cracks and pirated software.

Frederik

@solo said:

...and Google guys have been informed of the goings on with one of their authorized resellers, so we wait and see.

I really appreciate this step and look forward to see what will happen...

notareal

@tas_1985 said:

Well, I was doing my best to turn the table，if you still thinking we are thieves, I feel sorry about this.
last night I posted some of my project to make friendship with you, but it was removed, I fell sorry,too.
farewell

One have to work a lot to gain the trust that is lost, but I am confident that if you endure, old mistakes will be forgiven.

Gaieus

@notareal said:

@tas_1985 said:

Well, I was doing my best to turn the table，if you still thinking we are thieves, I feel sorry about this.
last night I posted some of my project to make friendship with you, but it was removed, I fell sorry,too.
farewell

One have to work a lot to gain the trust that is lost, but I am confident that if you endure, old mistakes will be forgiven.

OK then, for the time being, I restore your Gallery post - let the "community" decide if they like the idea.

Frederik

I can't seem to see when Bianhai - Brian visited this forum the last time...

It's also very difficult to visit SketchUpBBS.com...
Wonder why...

Fletch

@tas_1985 said:

I posted some of my project to make friendship with you

We at Twilight Render have noted that the effort at SketchUpBar to remove illegal softwared appears legitimate, and has received the support of their forum members.

This is to be encouraged and applauded. Thank you, tas_1985 or egoddess for your understanding.
We have accepted their apology for posting illegal software for download, and have encouraged them strongly to remove ALL pirated software from their servers and forums.

We look forward to a future when everyone can have software in their language without adding trouble to it.

As the Chinese (and all countries) stand together against the pirates, they will find much more support in the world than they may at first believe...

We will have Twilight available in several languages in the coming months...
Hope to see you at Twilight Render,
Fletch

**ps... Twilight Render not condone 'fighting fire with fire' in the digital world... we encourage respecting of international laws. We do believe in pursuing pirates to the fullest extent of the law.

We (people) depend, rather, on the 'good guys' out there to do what is right. We have all made mistakes and needed forgiveness at some point in life.**

kwistenbiebel

Well done Fletch!

If there is one app that can do without piracy it is Twilight.
The price is right, even for students.

tas_1985

We have released an announcement on our site:

http://www.sketchupbar.com/club/thread-7737-1-1.html

Announcement on Intellectual Rights Protection
Members of sketchupbar please read the following information:
Sketchupbar.com is a non-profit web site dedicated to free network education. We respect the intellectual property of others, and are strongly against any infringements of Intellectual Rights. We ask our users to do the same. It is our policy, in appropriate circumstances and at its discretion, to disable and/or terminate the accounts of users who may infringe or repeatedly infringe the copyrights or other intellectual property rights protected by international and Chinese law.

Infringements of intellectual Rights include:

Release of files with cracked serial number, software and plug-in package.
Release of methods that eliminate or disable the proper use of software( e.g. water print ).
Reproductions of the content of the websites without the authorization of the author or the website
Reproductions of function of software such as materials, styles and brushes.
Unauthorized release of kernel software, files, logos or unauthorized release of revised Chinese package and patch.
Copying other posts that may arouse intellectual rights protection

Members of sketchupbar are notified that any posts as listed above shall be tackled in the following ways:

The administrator and the moderator will delete the post at their earliest convenience.
The poster will be warned, and with more than three warnings, their access to the website will be disabled.
Any post that requires or replies to information on cracking is to be deleted before the administrator and the moderator take action in time. Rule 2 above is also applicable here.
4 In the case that the administrator or the moderators fail to notice and delete the post that violates the intellectual rights protection, members of the forum are entitled to report the case to them. Once the reporting is verified, the reporter will be encouraged by higher score.

solo

A great step in the right direction, thank you and well done, I know that this way of business will reap better and sustainable results.

diweiman

I'm from China.
I can't visit http://www.twilightrender.com now.
Is there any limit to Chinese visitor?

As you know,there are many obstacle in Chinese internet,the speed,the language and the government control....
We are young guys who full of ardor in design and art.
We hope your understanding of our thirsty on new technology and software in the world.

toxicvoxel

Modelhead,
Whether you use the technology to crack the code of an application or to hack into a remote computer, both actions are illegal if not criminal. You cannot condemn the one act and justify the other.

The suggestion that the police would publicly authorize hacking into a remote system for the purpose of disrupting it is ridiculous. If they are then they themselves are breaking the law. The implication that your mate could be hired to disrupt the networks of the sites in question is entirely out of order.

This forum is not made up of cyber-vigilantes that would employ illegitimate means to adminiser vengeance on anybody that dares to crack a plugin. I think you are overinfatuated with the idea that these individuals have the power to trace any individual anywhere and wreak havoc with impunity. I also think your obvious close association and support of somebody who by your own account makes himself guilty of such an action only brings your own values into question.

tas_1985

I request that when everything is done this topic be locked and sunk, thank you SCF

kwistenbiebel

Wow, this thing has been handled in a great manner!
Kudos to the guys that made this into a friendly fight.

Gaieus

@tas_1985 said:

I request that when everything is done this topic be locked and sunk, thank you SCF

Thank Tas for your efforts and I truly hope that they will be rewarded.
The topic will be closed in due time and let it sink.

Gaieus

OK, it seems one issue has been solved.

The other one - sketchupbbs - is still waiting for resolution and since the concerned party has done nothing but closed his site/forum from collecting evidence of his piracy so far, he has been permanently banned for the time being (further steps are now carried out by other concerned, 3rd parties).

At the same time, I am closing this topic and let it sink.

Please, someone post a funny pic here to start sinking it.