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    solo
    last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 13:10

    Steelers, sorry 'bout that.

    I am planning to put my texturing process in form of a tutorial that will be available soon when the new SCF happens, I can say that it's a combination of projected textures and polygon sampling (difficult to explain, hence video is needed)

    I have started setting up my 3D gardens page for soon release here : http://solosplace.com/3Dgarden.aspx
    I am still posting images of the Solo 3D Garden pack1 and I explain about the textures also.

    http://www.solos-art.com

    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      Stinkie
      last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 13:15

      Looking forward to both the tut and the models. ๐Ÿ‘

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        EarthMover
        last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 20:55

        Looks like a great collection Pete. Any idea of what the cost will be? Even just a price range will help. I moderate on a forum for landscape and outdoor construction guys and I'd be happy to spread the word over there for you. I've turned a lot of those guys on to Sketchup and they all complain regularly about the lack of plants.

        Have you thought about whipping up a few quick variations of flower pots to include in the collection? Even in my climate, the palms and such would be useful if they could go on a patio in a pot.

        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
        Content Creator at Skapeup

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          solo
          last edited by 12 Feb 2009, 21:02

          Adam

          Good Idea on the pots, I will look into it.

          Thanks for the offer to promote my collection, every bit counts.

          Did you see my recent inclusion?, that's mean't as a joke...or is it? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

          As for price, I have looked around at Cornicopia, Turbo squid, and a few other sites for an idea but they are just rediculously expensive, I would not dream of such prices, I was wondering what y'all think (hope this question doesn't bite me on the ass) I should charge.

          http://www.solos-art.com

          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            EarthMover
            last edited by 13 Feb 2009, 03:49

            haha the flamingo! Nice touch! Or did you mean the gnome? Either way, very clever.

            Pete, you've gotta talk the ruby guys into creating a Scatter Ruby for sketchup. I've been playing with scatter tool in max lately and can't help but thing how much that would help in sketchup with things like plants and grass. Since all components have gluing planes and snap to faces and edges, I don't think this would be impossible. I'd image for what you are doing, it would be great to scatter leaves on branches or quills on a cactus. Just a thought.

            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
            Content Creator at Skapeup

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              thomthom
              last edited by 13 Feb 2009, 07:27

              @earthmover said:

              haha the flamingo! Nice touch! Or did you mean the gnome? Either way, very clever.

              Pete, you've gotta talk the ruby guys into creating a Scatter Ruby for sketchup. I've been playing with scatter tool in max lately and can't help but thing how much that would help in sketchup with things like plants and grass. Since all components have gluing planes and snap to faces and edges, I don't think this would be impossible. I'd image for what you are doing, it would be great to scatter leaves on branches or quills on a cactus. Just a thought.

              Like Component Spray?

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                EarthMover
                last edited by 13 Feb 2009, 15:58

                As far as I've tried, I can't get compospray to work on things like cylinders and spheres. Here's a video showing how scatter works in Max if you want to take a stab at it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpCRPf0ARtg&feature=PlayList&p=05436D32294883CD&playnext=1&index=2

                I'd imagine in sketchup. a scatter tool would have to be limited to the individual faces that form the sphere. I was just thinking for making things like trees and plants, scattering along a cylinder type object would be very useful. Perhaps you can do it with compospray and I'm just missing how.

                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                  steelers05
                  last edited by 14 Feb 2009, 14:57

                  Sounds great. These look really awesome and I trust they willl be well worth whatever you charge. Anxiously awaiting. Thank you in advance

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                    Ross Macintosh
                    last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 11:05

                    Hi Pete!
                    I see your plants collection is now offered for sale. (http://solosplace.com/3Dgarden.aspx ) I'm happy to be one of the first to purchase the set and to support you in this venture. I'm sure the components will be very useful.

                    Regards, Ross

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                      thomthom
                      last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 11:16

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Textures have been carefully mapped and applied using projections and polygon sampling, so exploding groups will destroy the UV mapping.

                      I've not experienced that.

                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 11:25

                        Ok, I see it now. Tried it on one of your plant. Seem to be when components/groups are scaled and skewed. Wasn't aware of that.

                        ...wonder if it's possible to script an explode that doesn't do that.

                        On a sidenoe: the texture for the Generic tree looks odd and faceted. Is that suppose to be like that?

                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          solo
                          last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 11:37

                          Thanks guys, I appreciate your support.

                          Thomthom, I have corrected that texture so you can iether re-download from the link you got or simply change the material size from 12' to 1',not sure what happened there as i made sure to check all textures before uploading.

                          Thanks again guys.

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 11:55

                            For future collections, do you think the nesting and amount of groups can be reduced?

                            As mentioned before, V-Ray will take a long time processing scenes with many deeply nested components. While the file size is small, it's not improving the V-Ray rendering time. Not sure how other render engines deal with this. File sizes doesn't concern me too much, all though I understand it's important since the product is download product. But in my experience it's the textures that add up most of the size, the geometry less.

                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 12:52

                              Also, it'd be nice if the origin where located around the root or the plant/tree, not the corner of the component.

                              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                solo
                                last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 12:53

                                I certainly will look into the nested groups and component thing a lot closer for the next collection, I tried to make this collection as tight as posssible, I know Vray has had issues with nested groups in the past. I do not own Vray and my trial has expired as i would have tested them in Vray if I had it available.

                                Here are a few plants from the collection posed with one of Tom's houses (Tomsdesk), straight SU output for those that do not render.


                                http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3711/collectionscene8gw2.jpg


                                http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7858/collectionscene18bi8.jpg

                                http://www.solos-art.com

                                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 13:06

                                  With the plants I've tested V-Ray seemed to start quickly, but it's been very small tests. So real life tests has to be done. I'll report back when I've tried it on a full scale project. I thought I'd just mention it as I know from previous experience with V-Ray what causes potential issues.

                                  Very nice package Solo. I signed up to be notified on new ones. And very nice price as well! ๐Ÿ˜„


                                  plant test.png

                                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    Frederik
                                    last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 13:20

                                    @thomthom said:

                                    Very nice package Solo. I signed up to be notified on new ones. And very nice price as well! ๐Ÿ˜„

                                    I can agree to this...!! ๐Ÿ‘
                                    And I can confirm that they're perfect for rendering in KT as well...!! ๐Ÿ˜„

                                    Cheers
                                    Kim Frederik

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                                      solo
                                      last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 16:57

                                      Thanks guys.

                                      Good news (phew!!) I downloaded another vray trial (running out of email addresses) and rendered scene without any material adjustments, actually without any adjustments period. and all the plants rendered without having to explode any components, so I can say that my plants work with the new version of Vray without hitch.

                                      Excuse the pathetic render, I am new to vray and just wanted to see if the plants rendered okay.


                                      http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9624/vraycollectionoq9.jpg

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        wolfy
                                        last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 17:12

                                        Wow Solo! These are gorgeous and will come in very handy. This college student is gonna have to sacrifice a couple meals to get this one!! Priorities ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                          mirjman
                                          last edited by 16 Feb 2009, 17:18

                                          dear solo-

                                          regarding the deeply nested component issue, you might find this explaination by adamb very interesting about components/containers and processor usage:

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