POLL: SCF Gallery- is bumping OK?
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Modelhead,
Fisrt and foremost (and I'm not shouting this, I just want to make sure that everyone see it), I am not a moderator, have not been a moderator for over 6 months now and my views are completely my own and do not represent those of SCFs admin or moderators in any way.
I didn't set out to single out GreenToaster or mention any names (although I realise they'd be easy to deduce), I just responded to other replies and had to say who I was referring to. I knew I'd come in for fire over this as anyone who ever expresses concern over an individual or individuals' behaviour on this forum does... apathy is so much safer.@tomsdesk said:
Since I go through this list completely (sometimes several pages) I assume I see every new post (except the ones in forums not included in this "search" by the powers that be)...? So, Jackson: how am I missing anyone's posts as it seems to me I've bypassed your concerns...?
It's a hard to answer without sounding facetious, but obviously if, every time you visit SCF you take the time to view every single new post you wouldn't miss any posts. In any case clicking on "view new posts" is effectively exactly the same (but quicker overall) as simply opening any of the forums as all new posts are top most. Trouble is I doubt many people read all new posts (although I may be wrong), they just go to the forums that interest them and see what's cooking... unfortunately lately it's seems to be pretty much the same menu every day. -
If I honestly thought I'd "humiliated" anyone I'd be mortified as I try to conduct myself online as I do in the "real world", but I didn't single anyone out, I simply pointed out the behaviour of several members (none by name) which I believed was detrimental to the SCF Gallery as a whole. Ironically it was people who support your view who linked to specific topics and named names. I don't think it would be realistic to then continue the discussion and pretend that nobody had said anything.
For someone who has in the past defended a member's right to indiscriminately criticise or outright insult other members and their work you're pretty quick to jump down my throat, accusing me of bullying for simply speaking up about a worrying trend in members' behaviour. Following your (presumably libertarian) logic, if someone posts on a public forum, they are then fair game for criticism.
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Just to keep the record straight, i linked to the topic because someone asked which thread stu was talking about.
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@unknownuser said:
Jackson..I just think you put your foot in it...and now you are trying to blaim others for exposing this person...??? I'm a bit bewildered by your behaviour because it is not like you.
I'm glad you recognise that being two-faced isn't in my nature, but how can I possibly win this argument? If I said yes, I named someone or singled them out I would be lying. As I said it wasn't me I'm accused of trying to blame others.
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@unknownuser said:
OK ....Jackson you are solely responsible for humiliating the man. The administration is off the hook.
Stu is the one who was throwing the insults around (metaphorically, of course) but he wasn't naming names. I was responsible for the insults being attached to the people who were being alluded to.
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OK, the dog thing was a bit strong but as I explained before the reference was really to the attitude of laissez faire in regard to that kind of posting....'If you dont like it you dont have to look at it'
My point is that I felt this kind of response was inadequate when looking at someone who has spent, and I say it again, forty four pages, on self indulgent posting.
I then saw the fact that this was allowed to happen as an indication of a lack of decent policy and direction for this forum.And no, the Caped Crusader and I just cant seem to get along [Whack, Crack, Crunch, Kapow!!!!]
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stu wrote
@unknownuser said:
most vocal people here are often the least talented.
Yep I'll own up to that.
So no comment on this thread from me.
Jon
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Heeeey! up to page 45!!
Dis bumpin game sure is fun!!!!!
Now everybody's doin it!!! -
I've been trying to come up with some clever and witty answer for the past 5 minutes or so, but to no avail. Shame!
Mornin', Stu.
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So, anyone want to take bets on how long this thread stays alive - http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=14693. Ugh!
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All together now!!
Everybody's doin it...doin it...doin it
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@stu said:
All together now!!
Everybody's doin it...doin it...doin it
Tattle tale! hehe I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Jackson on this one. Not that my opinion holds any weight, but it does get annoying to see people set up camp in a thread and make it their personal home page. You rarely find those type of people contributing in other areas of the forum. I like how the PushPullBar handles it. Don't post a pic unless you have something informative to say. Either that or we need two separate Galleries. A "WIP" and a "Finished Work". This would tidy things up a little. Just my .02. Not trying to stir the pot.
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i'm liking that thread, kdsdesign is really putting his heart into it, and i totally understand him wanting to talk about it.
i don't think it's such a problem.
earthmover i'm not stirring either, just slowly bringing to the boil.he he, sometimes i crack myself up.
pav
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@stu said:
@alan fraser said:
I still think that things ought to be left the way they are. However...there is a much broader church here now than the effective 100% professional users that used the old @Last forum; and it seems obvious that some people just dont "get it". Therefore a sticky explaining the netiquette of not hogging the front page might be useful.
If that fails (and I think we are only talking about a small number of people here...so it wouldn't be too onerous to have a mods discussion on individual cases) then a PM ought to be sent to the people concerned, suggesting they show a little more consideration for other users. If that fails, lock the thread so it sinks naturally.
Putting on my straight face for a moment I would like to second Alan's thoughts on this. It seems a reasonable way to stop the gallery becoming:
a spot where anybody can create their very own endless blog.
A gallery equivelent of the 3D Warehouse.
A place where no self-respecting SU practitioner would bother posting. [and I suspect there are plenty of those already]
What about the whingers who lose the debate on gallery bumping and then bump their own whinge thread. Is that going to bring in the self-respecting SU practitioners?
You lost the poll very convincingly. So nearly a month after this thread was last posted on you carry on your whinge again. I suppose you'll try and claim you're being ironic by bumping. I just think you're being moronic.
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Yes john, IRONIC
And Ive only got another 40 ironic pages to go
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@alan fraser said:
I still think that things ought to be left the way they are. However...there is a much broader church here now than the effective 100% professional users that used the old @Last forum; and it seems obvious that some people just dont "get it". Therefore a sticky explaining the netiquette of not hogging the front page might be useful.
If that fails (and I think we are only talking about a small number of people here...so it wouldn't be too onerous to have a mods discussion on individual cases) then a PM ought to be sent to the people concerned, suggesting they show a little more consideration for other users. If that fails, lock the thread so it sinks naturally.
Putting on my straight face for a moment I would like to second Alan's thoughts on this. It seems a reasonable way to stop the gallery becoming:
a spot where anybody can create their very own endless blog.
A gallery equivalent of the 3D Warehouse.
A place where no self-respecting SU practitioner would bother posting. [and I suspect there are plenty of those already]
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NOW we have a problem
people have been commenting on a thread (Guess which one?) over and over again about how it's off topic, making it more and more off-topic. Doesn't that seem a little hypocritical to anyone?Every 10 minutes there's a new post saying "This thread is way too off topic!" or something on the lines of that, then another saying it's off-topic because everyone say it's off-topic, and it keeps going ON and ON and ON...
Personally, I compare it to a starving animal eating itself. What, not professional enough?MY PERSONAL SOLUTION: A "sort by..." option, as well as a rating ability on usefulness of a thread.
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@unknownuser said:
NOW we have a problem
people have been commenting on a thread (Guess which one?) over and over again about how it's off topic, making it more and more off-topic. Doesn't that seem a little hypocritical to anyone?Every 10 minutes there's a new post saying "This thread is way too off topic!" or something on the lines of that, then another saying it's off-topic because everyone say it's off-topic, and it keeps going ON and ON and ON...
Personally, I compare it to a starving animal eating itself. What, not professional enough?MY PERSONAL SOLUTION: A "sort by..." option, as well as a rating ability on usefulness of a thread.
Sorry, mate, but the bulk of that thread's made up of the author's whining about 'rude' votes, wanting to show something but not being able to, etc, etc.
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I'd just like to emphasise a couple points here.
One of my main objection to the 45 pager was that it created the precedent for the 'Endless Blog' in the gallery pages.
My..'Everybody's Doin It' ditty was to point out the copycat effect that was happening.
I still think that some reasonable posting guidelines should be pinned in the gallery and that the moderators have a discreet word with people breaching these.And johnsenior, if you seriously think I would bother to start that thread in the gallery to prove a point, then you obviously dont know me or how busy I am.....and mate, I care ....but not THAT much!
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