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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      Remus,

      Now imagine if this was your teacher

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      Debra Lafave a school teacher that had sex with a 14 year old student, busted when he started bragging about it.

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        remus
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        No thanks. i prefer women who dont fondle automotive spares in their free time.

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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          geh4evr
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          I'm not going to go to much into it, But I could never understand how women is poses with Cars could be extra attractive, Unless you're like this guy who "did it" with 1000 cars... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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          • H Offline
            HFM
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            How the hell do you make love with a car?! Humping the exhaust? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜†

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            • boofredlayB Offline
              boofredlay
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              Sounds like someone is Hot For Teacher

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              • G Offline
                geh4evr
                last edited by

                @hfm said:

                How the hell do you make love with a car?! Humping the exhaust? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜†

                That is the first thing I wondered... Plus, isn't an exhaust kind of... Sharp? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

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                • R Offline
                  remus
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                  stands back and watches thread drifting off topic

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                  • ToboboT Offline
                    Tobobo
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                    Anyway back to topic.

                    Trust is a big thing. Parents trust the school and teachers to keep their children safe while they at school. Its the same with youth workers and nurses, policeman etc thats why in this country we have the Criminal Record Check.

                    Toby

                    Philippians 4:13

                    I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                    • C Offline
                      chango70
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                      While on the topic check out this Swedish film called All Things Fair.

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                      • Alan FraserA Offline
                        Alan Fraser
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                        The CRB checks, while basically a good idea have simply turned into a free lunch for jobsworthy civil servants to justify their existence.

                        I used to be in teaching, so I'd already been CRBed. You'd think that if you were clean, that would be it....much too simple for the civil service.

                        I'm also in the local Rotary club. It turns out we need to be rechecked for each and every involvement we have with the "vulnerable".
                        So you deliver parcels of Christmas goodies to needy old folk...CRB check. You chauffeur underpriviliged kids to the zoo...CRB check.
                        Organise a day out for the old or disabled...CRB check. Just how many times do you need to prove yourself "clean"...and is it any wonder there's a backlog?

                        Back to the original question. Yes, I think that's fair. Teachers hold a position of both responsibility and authority, so such safeguards need to be in place to prevent abuse of such a position. Any genuine relationship is going to stand the test of time. All that is required to circumvent the discrepancy is that either the teacher or the student move somewhere else....something that the student will inevitably do anyway.

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                        • ToboboT Offline
                          Tobobo
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                          @alan fraser said:

                          I used to be in teaching, so I'd already been CRBed. You'd think that if you were clean, that would be it....much too simple for the civil service.

                          I'm also in the local Rotary club. It turns out we need to be rechecked for each and every involvement we have with the "vulnerable".
                          So you deliver parcels of Christmas goodies to needy old folk...CRB check. You chauffeur underpriviliged kids to the zoo...CRB check.
                          Organise a day out for the old or disabled...CRB check. Just how many times do you need to prove yourself "clean"...and is it any wonder there's a backlog?

                          I agree, why can't we have one check evry three years and that is it. I'm a youth leader at church and a youth leader at a summer camp i need two different checks.

                          Toby

                          Philippians 4:13

                          I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                            remus
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                            On the subject of CRB checks, ive been CRBed a few times, and im only 17.

                            Back on topic, alan, i agree that measures need to be taken to prevent the abuse of the authority that teachers hold, although i think this should be an internal matter, to be dealt with by the schools, rather than a matter for the courts.

                            Putting someone on the sex offenders list can severely restrict your choice of job, and i think thats disproportionate to the 'offence' that has been committed.

                            p.s. Im refering to relationships between otherwise legal people, not the abuse of under age children.

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                            • Alan FraserA Offline
                              Alan Fraser
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                              Hehe, I married a former student, so I'm now keeping quiet. ๐Ÿ˜„

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                              Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
                              You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                              • J Offline
                                johnsenior1973
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                                @remus said:

                                Putting someone on the sex offenders list can severely restrict your choice of job, and i think thats disproportionate to the 'offence' that has been committed.

                                p.s. Im refering to relationships between otherwise legal people, not the abuse of under age children.

                                Just because a teacher can be liable to be put on the Sex Offenders Register for a relationship with a student, it doesn't mean that they all will. IMO it's just a measure so that a serious offender who has had sexual relationships with many pupils will be put on the register, but a teacher who has a loving relationship with a student probably won't.

                                Put it this way, if a teacher is found guilty of using his position to coerce his pupils into relationships with many pupils, the relationships have all caused negative influences in the lives of the pupils and the teacher has also forced pupils into relationships with the threat of harming their education if they don't comply, isn't that worthy of being placed on the Sex Offenders Register?

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                                  PeterCharles
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                                  @alan fraser said:

                                  The CRB checks, while basically a good idea have simply turned into a free lunch for jobsworthy civil servants to justify their existence.

                                  Personally I'd no longer get involved in ANYTHING that required CRB checks. Like anything else put in place by the government the outcome is far too likely to be a bu**ers muddle, with me in the sh1t.

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                                  • ToboboT Offline
                                    Tobobo
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                                    The crazy thing is that after all the details you have to enter on the form they still get people mixed up. Teachers and others needing CRBs have been sacked because they got the worng details

                                    Toby

                                    Philippians 4:13

                                    I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                                    • DanielD Offline
                                      Daniel
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                                      Remus, I'm not too clear on your initial post. Are you saying that if a teacher/professor has consentual "relations" with a student over 18 yo then they go on a sex offenders list?

                                      My avatar is an anachronism.

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                                        johnsenior1973
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                                        @daniel said:

                                        Remus, I'm not too clear on your initial post. Are you saying that if a teacher/professor has consentual "relations" with a student over 18 yo then they go on a sex offenders list?

                                        The offence is for students between the ages of 16 and 18.

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                                          remus
                                          last edited by

                                          Johns got it pretty much spot on, except the offense is for students younger than 18, not just16-18.

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                                          • DanielD Offline
                                            Daniel
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                                            Well, that makes sense - I thought you meant ANY student, regardless of age.

                                            Your Sexual Offenses Act 2003 is pretty clear - any adult in a "position of trust" who has sex with a child (younger than 18) is guilty of a sexual offense. This makes sense; although a minor might be over the age of consent, that doesn't mean they have the maturity to make the correct decision.

                                            The term age of consent is often misunderstood, and is rarely actually used in laws - one has to read through the various laws to determine it. Many people think the age of consent is when they can legally have sex. Basically, the age of consent is when a person can consent to sex, but that doesn't mean it is legal to have sex with them. The difference is the charge and punishmet for any adult having sex with a minor; if the child is under the age of consent, it is sexual battery or rape (is there a difference?) and carries a stiffer penalty; if the child is of the age of consent, then it is a lesser crime (such as sexual missconduct) and carries a lesser penalty. Furthermore, some places are specific as to the age and sex of the "perpetrator" having sex with a minor who has reached the age of consent.

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