M4 Layout File Issues?

xpiperx

I'm having the same issue for a while now.
It's been a couple of months,i haven't been using layout too much, I didn't bother.

Now that I need it, it's irritating.
Nothing SAVES right.
Every single file I save ends up corrupted, i don't even have to close, if i save it as another name, and open it, it's all white squares.
If i save it as a template, it's all white squares too.

I tried the "repair" tool. Still saves wrong.
I uninstalled the whole thing and installed it over again. Still saves wrong.

And it's EVERY file, if i start from scratch, still saves the same way.

Dave R

Any chance you'd like to share things like your operating system and which version of LO you are using? Maybe post one of your corrupted LO files?

xpiperx

Damn, i hadn't checked back here all this time.
My Layout has been open for two days now since i'm working on something, and if i close it, it will get messed up.
I'm running Windows 7, my layout version i believe is the latest, since i haven't got any update messages lately. (Is there a way of seeing update versions?)
i'll be posting a file as soon as i figure out how to do it.

xpiperx

ok, this is it:
http://www.filedropper.com/messedupfile
mind you, it's not a complex file at all, this happens to everything.
Also, when i see the thumbnail before opening it, it shows as it was.

Also, do you know if there's any other software that allows me to copy+paste the information that's on the Layout pages? Because that's would be so nice.

marcdurant

Hi Piper-

It sounds like you're running into a problem that LayOut 3 has on computers where the decimal separator character is set to a comma instead of a period. The bug is that when LayOut saves a file, it starts using commas instead of periods, and then gets confused when it tries to read the file back in. This will manifest itself as text boxes and model views that collapse into a single line (among other problems).

For example, from the file you posted, I see this line in the xml:
<e:rectangleBase height="1,169292" width="0,8267701" x="2,755906" y="5,129921">
but for LayOut to work properly it should be this instead:
<e:rectangleBase height="1.169292" width="0.8267701" x="2.755906" y="5.129921">

There is some good news, though! The workaround for LayOut 3 is to go into Windows Control Panel and change your "decimal separator" character to be a period. Also, we believe that this bug has been fixed in LayOut 2013 although it's still a bit early to know for sure.

Thanks,
Marc

xpiperx

Holy Crap, I think that worked: opened a new file, put a bunch of squares, saved, closed, opened it. And it opened just as it was.
I just have to try with bigger files now, but i think that did solved it. Is there any way of fixing already saved files? Or just opening them? Can i change the codes?

marcdurant

I'm glad that worked! Unfortunately we don't have a good way to fix files that already have this problem. The trick is that some of the commas in the LayOut file are necessary, so it's not as easy as just replacing all commas with periods. Do you have a significant number of files in this state?

xpiperx

pretty much everything i worked on for the past four months.
I had already given up fixing it, and just used for simple stuff, that i could do in one sit, saved everything as a pdf file. There was no way of changing it after.
Sad thing is that i had a big one already halfway done, that was lost.
But thank you so much, Marc!

Krisidious

If you're using the SU 2013 version then Mac must be updated to 10.7... and XP to SP3.

Have you done this?

xpiperx

Ok, so i'm having other problems now.

I open Layout, works fine. I zoom in, select a few lines, change their width to .1
Then i think it's wrong, try to change it to .5. It doesn't input my .5. And now it doesn't zoom out. Also, all the keyboard shortcuts stop working. WTF?

xpiperx

Just to see if those bugs were because of the comma config, i put commas back. And those zoom and keyboard problems disappear. Problem: if i save it with commas, it will mess up the whole thing. Now i'm configuring back to points everytime i save it.
That's so very strange.

You see, my local configuration is a comma, because we use commas instead of points. While my Windows is in Portuguese, my Sketchup is in English (The translation is so rubish, it pisses me off). Do you think if i change my sketchup language to portuguese, those problems will disappear?