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    Valley Forge: Spaceship from 70's Movie "Silent Running"

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    • TaffGochT Offline
      TaffGoch
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      @mhtaylor said:

      I've already heard from geodesic dome experts that the both greenhouse domes and the fuel cells at the rear aren't correct but I don't currently have the energy to go back and rework them.

      I was only trying to help,...

      Geodesic dome configuration
      Fuel pod geometry
      ...honest!

      (I did provide my SU files, BTW.)

      -Taff

      "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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        mhtaylor
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        Taff - it's not you, it's me. I just can't face going back to it right now. It turned into one of those models I thought was going to be easy but contained more details than I ever imagined. Those fuel pods you made are particularly fantastic. If you put either in the warehouse I could incorporate them into the model if you like and you would get credit as a contributor.
        Regards - Martin

        The Other Martin Taylor aka: The SketchUp Fanboy

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        • TaffGochT Offline
          TaffGoch
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          Martin,

          I apologize if I gave the impression that it's about credit. I certainly don't mind if you use the dome & pod model files I emailed you, to upgrade your model, with or without attribution.

          I always strive to encourage modelers, by providing geodesic support. That's my "thing."

          I'm chagrined that you may have taken my emails as criticism. That was not my intent.

          -Taff

          "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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            mhtaylor
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            @taffgoch said:

            Martin,

            I apologize if I gave the impression that it's about credit. I certainly don't mind if you use the dome & pod model files I emailed you, to upgrade your model, with or without attribution.

            I always strive to encourage modelers, by providing geodesic support. That's my "thing."

            I'm chagrined that you may have taken my emails as criticism. That was not my intent.

            -Taff

            Taff - I took it in the spirit it was intended. I don't think of the word 'criticism' as a negative one and a value you having got in touch with me and showing me your work. It was certainly more accurate than mine but I didn't want to just incorporate your hard work without permission. Now I have it I will revisit the model.
            Thanks - Martin

            PS the Eng Lit grad in me loves that you used the word 'chagrined' 😄

            The Other Martin Taylor aka: The SketchUp Fanboy

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            • TaffGochT Offline
              TaffGoch
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              Martin,

              I look forward to seeing your progress, as you refine your model. You may note that I've added your model to my "Geodesic" Warehouse collection.


              For those of you, not familiar with the details of the "Valley Forge," Martin & I have, both, been using this excellent website, which details props from the movie:

              Valley Forge - Prop

              In particular, I used these two photos, in my research:

              My SketchUp experimental overlay, on prop photo
              Fuel pods
              What I found particularly surprising was that the (1972) movie preceded the building of the Antarctic dome (1975,) yet, the skeletal framework for both domes is virtually identical, both in geodesic subdivision and profile (height/width ratio.)
              1975 NSF Research Dome
              -Taff

              "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                mhtaylor
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                Taff - I have incorporated your greenhouse domes and fuel cells into the model now. It's still in the same place on the warehouse: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=846f837ba72374c7932c511df6d2aa45 LMK what you think.


                ValleyForgeAssembledNew Domes.jpg

                The Other Martin Taylor aka: The SketchUp Fanboy

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                  mhtaylor
                  last edited by

                  Here' a quick render from the Twilight plugin with the new domes - unfortunately I didn't get all the materials right for some reason.


                  valleyforge.png

                  The Other Martin Taylor aka: The SketchUp Fanboy

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                  • TaffGochT Offline
                    TaffGoch
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                    Nice Twilight render, Martin. That was quick (and, I hope, painless?)

                    I looked over your model, and particularly like scene 4 (but I'm geodesically biased.) I changed some of the SU view settings, to display the "copper" cables:
                    SU png export
                    It would be nice to be able to render a photo-realistic image that produces the "glint" from the dome frame, as in some of the movie stills, but I don't think that render engines are implemented to provide reflections from "edges." (The outer copper cables, in my model, are just edges, and it's my understanding that render engines are set-up to render faces.)


                    I suspect, that nowadays, this movie prop would never have been built, as CGI would be employed, instead. Gone are those days, not so long ago....

                    -Taff

                    "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                      TZY
                      last edited by

                      Great thread...
                      Im a huge fan of this ship. Im in the process of building a kit of this ship using another mesh.
                      If you looking for info on this ship contact me.
                      Once again Great work.
                      T
                      http://img840.imageshack.us/g/fulestorage.jpg/

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                        liam887
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                        18 months! don't worry man I share your pain sometimes I don't think my Avatar helicopter will ever be finished haha!
                        Good work, excellent model, what size is it coming in at? ill download it when my new computer finally gets delivered, might download it on Wednesday to the work computer on my dinner if i have time.

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                        http://www.robotsvdinosaurs.com/

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