Mint 10(Ubuntu10.10), sketchyphysics, sketchup and wine 1.2

phy

@mut said:

hey, Just followed your guide, Thanks a lot! Its real good to get webdialogues working.

Just wondered if you have the same problem as me: When I open the ruby console, I can type away, but return the return button dosent work! so I cant execute anything im testing!
It even does the same when using a virtual keyboard.

It works ok in notepad/other apps under wine, so just wondered if im the only one haveing this problem.

Thanks,

Do short cuts work, you know M for move and such like?

mut

Well, they did't work (Hadn't noticed that!) But I just went to preferences, and hit reset all on the short cuts, and they work now.

The return key still doesn't work on the console!! I guess you don't have this problem? its weird that even the virtual keyboard won't work.

Thanks,

phy

@mut said:

Well, they did't work (Hadn't noticed that!) But I just went to preferences, and hit reset all on the short cuts, and they work now.

The return key still doesn't work on the console!! I guess you don't have this problem? its weird that even the virtual keyboard won't work.

Thanks,

That's weird. The return key works fine for me I'll go see what I can do.

Aerilius

The return key in the ruby console works for me since wine 1.3.3 (I don't know when the next stable 1.4 is released, if you like to use a development version, then add this to your software sources http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu)

Installing gecko and real Internet Explorer (ie7 or ie8) is what the Wine developers recommended for our problems with SketchUp. I tried it some time ago in many different ways without success. Thanks for your tip! I didn't know that uninstalling Internet Explorer would be helpful!

Following your tips I still didn't have success this time. I use the development version of Wine (1.39, it has great improvements for SU) and XP as default Windows version. When I try to uninstall ie8 via Application menu -> Wine -> 'Uninstall Wine Aplication', that window crashes (maybe next wine build fixes that). Now webdialogs are not anymore blank, but bright gray while loading a page. Then webdialogs+SketchUp crashes immediately. But it's interesting, and I will keep playing with it!

Which precise versions do you use? Does uploading SketchUp files work now (I suppose it should, as wine 1.37 fixed the collada problems)?

I'm active in the SketchUp help forum and maintaining a tutorial for SketchUp on Linux. I'm very thankful for any tricks or ideas!
http://sites.google.com/site/sketchupsage/problems/linux
SketchUp in Wine survey
3d Warehouse: made on Linux collection (still too empty, I would like to add as many models as possible)

phy

I'm using 1.2.1 at the moment. I'm going to install 1.3.9 and see what happens.

phy

@unknownuser said:

Now webdialogs are not anymore blank, but bright gray while loading a page. Then webdialogs+SketchUp crashes immediately

Forget the uninstaller in 1.3.9, it doesn't work. Just go into your directory and delete the Internet explorer folder and the webdialogs should work.

Aerilius

I started a new, empty wine profile (by renaming the ~.wine folder). After installing SketchUp and following your guide, webdialogs work.
besides that,

after installing flash via winetricks, the phototextures feature works
Add location works (but the satellite image is wrongly mapped on the terrain)
the Upload dialog is not anymore blank, but hitting the submit button does nothing.
(fixme:wininet:CommitUrlCacheEntryInternal)
Building Maker should work after installing the GE Plugin (although the plugin itself crashes...)

Does anyone have experiences with bug submitting to Wine's Bugzilla? (I have already submitted some bugs but I'm not sure how helpful the info is that I provided, I'm not a programmer).

By the way, I like Sketchy Physics in Wine! I added your tricks to the SketchUp Wiki

phy

Glad I could be of some help.
I think the reason it works after installing and then uninstalling ie8 using winetricks, is because the urlmon.dll gets replaced during the installation.

Also sketchup's rendering is crawling slow in wine. The sketchyphysics frame-rate on a empty model is only about 15. In windows it's about 50.

mimotitolindo

I have installed in Ubuntu 10.04 a wine copy version 1.3.17, I follow your instructions in my laptop, but... don't work. Every step, even using winetricks don'work... what I sent to you in order to receive a procedure focused in solve my problem? I try to run the web devices in sketchyphysics like control panel and other.

You can helpme?

Thank in advance...

mimo

Aerilius

If you use SketchUp Pro, you certainly had to install .Net framework?
According to this guy, webdialogs work only if .Net framework is not installed:
http://robsworldoftech.blogspot.com/2010/12/getting-sketchup-8-working-in-wine-even.html

You can simply try it out by renaming your ~/.wine folder into ~/.wine_backup or something (for the case you need it again). Then Wine creates a clean new ~./wine folder when you install SketchUp 8 Free (+ the tricks for Internet Explorer etc, but no .Net framework).