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    • DanielD Offline
      Daniel
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      Can an automobile be art? Yes. Art does not have to have the sole function of "art." Any man-made endeavor which transcends the sum of its parts is art and evokes an emotional response, whether it be a car, architecture, or a painting, is art. Of course, in all things artistic, it's in the eye of the beholder.

      My avatar is an anachronism.

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      • olisheaO Offline
        olishea
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        as long as its not functional it can be coined 'art'.

        strictly speaking:

        as soon as you use it; it loses art status.

        oli

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        • honoluludesktopH Offline
          honoluludesktop
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          How about the engine builder? He's not required to polish the top of a block, but he may, out of response to his sense of "art". A lot of parts of a car, its upholstery, rims, lights, the paint job, etc., etc. are canvases for some artist.

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
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            Maybe this?

            http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gTJMEP-c2fo/SHSof7e-d6I/AAAAAAAABRU/g8524aooDBE/s400/car_art_36.jpg

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              @olishea said:

              as long as its not functional it can be coined 'art'.

              strictly speaking:

              as soon as you use it; it loses art status.

              How about architecture then? Only useless (non-usable) buildings can be "art"?

              Gai...

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
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                ooooh!!

                now you gonna start a war. πŸ’š

                Here is my contribution.. πŸ˜‰

                http://bonniesamueldesigns.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/painted-houuse.jpg

                http://www.solos-art.com

                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                • david_hD Offline
                  david_h
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                  Of course a car can be art. In fact, wasn't the Land Rover/ Range Rover installed in the British Museum of Art as a art/design/engineering Masterpiece? It wears the queen's badge does it not? I also agree about the Doozy.

                  My ideas of Cars that could be considered ART
                  Jaguar XKE --beautiful elegant lines and curves. Defines Sexy!
                  XKE.jpg

                  1936 Hispano-suiza. . .Declared by many to be the most beautiful car ever built.

                  Hispano-Suiza_J12_Front-view.JPG

                  The Volkswagen Beetle --iconic This is a 1953 Split rear window.


                  53 split.jpg

                  If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
                    last edited by

                    Again I must insist....

                    "a car could never be art, because for something to be art, it can have no purpose other than itself".

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      That's nonsense, Pete. Why would the two things exclude each other?

                      Gai...

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                      • david_hD Offline
                        david_h
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                        Oh . ..I picked em cuz I just thought they were beautiful . . .to me. . that's art. . .. and besides. . .

                        Who died and made you Robert Hughes? πŸ’š

                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          IMO anything ("man-made") that pleases the eye (ear, taste, smell...) be it useful or useless (otherwise) can be considered art.

                          Just look at Arts & Crafts or Art Deco - that's exactly the point they started. No-one tells me a beautiful Art Nouveau furniture cannot be considered art just because you can sit on it!

                          http://carpentersworkshopgallery.com/diaporama/498.jpg

                          Gai...

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                          • honoluludesktopH Offline
                            honoluludesktop
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                            If the question is "anything" art, then NO, not all things are art. Somethings are enclusively art, while others, that may have some function, can also be art.
                            http://www.bmwdrives.com/gallery/BMWartcars/calder/3.0CSL_calder_1.jpg

                            1975 BMW 3.0 CSL by Alexander Calder

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Well, if I keep myself to my own definition that "anything that pleases the eye", to me at least, those BMW's are not too artistic. But then its a millennia old discussion what art is actually and whether it is always subjective or there is a kind of Platonic idea according to which there are art pieces that are definitely art even without critics stating it. πŸ˜†

                              Gai...

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                              • soloS Offline
                                solo
                                last edited by

                                I was hoping to avoid a "what is art" discussion, as it's proven to be a pointless debate.

                                However I was more looking for a what is NOT art, but I guess if the answer is "it looks pretty so it's art" then there really cannot be a debate or discussion.

                                http://www.solos-art.com

                                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                • DanielD Offline
                                  Daniel
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                                  I don't think you can ask if something is art and avoid the what-is-art question.
                                  Art is often in the eye of the beholder - what is one man's metal sculpture is another man's pile of scrap metal.

                                  My avatar is an anachronism.

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                                  • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                    honoluludesktop
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Gai, Guess you had to be there. Calder's work is like that. The first time I saw one of his stables exhibited along with some sketches, I was struck how poorly photographs conveyed their beauty. However I did post the car "sight unseen".

                                    http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;lnizWqr0oVMvhM;http://www.wyldeart.com/Galleries

                                    Don't know if art must be beautiful;

                                    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_r0IkIWe8gKs/SFc3IyWF5LI/AAAAAAAAAI0/i6ygFVRwozs/s400/SJP2.jpg

                                    is a beautiful couple "Art"?

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                                    • soloS Offline
                                      solo
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      what is one man's metal sculpture is another man's pile of scrap metal.

                                      aha, what I was hoping for πŸ’š

                                      So.... if the artist intended the metal to be composed in a way to represent an art piece then it's purposed use is just that...art, and will not be used or driven, eaten or anything else as it is art and will be exhibited as art.

                                      A car is designed and built to be driven, it's purpose is mobility, therefore it cannot strictly be art.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                      • david_hD Offline
                                        david_h
                                        last edited by

                                        INteresting. .. .ON Wait Wait Don't Tell me on Saturday, they discussed this very because a janitor in Some European Museum had apparently discarded several "Sculptures" that he took for piles of garbage on the floor that he was sure was meant to be thrown away. 🀣

                                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                        • soloS Offline
                                          solo
                                          last edited by

                                          Many may then conclude that the janitor has no idea of what art is, he does not have the refinement to see art in it's glory...his rebuttal would be they do not know what trash is and he is an expert at trash as it is his career.

                                          http://www.solos-art.com

                                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                          • soloS Offline
                                            solo
                                            last edited by

                                            Is the car going to be used for transport or parked in a gallery of some sort?

                                            http://www.solos-art.com

                                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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