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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      The original car that was labeled a 'piece of art' was the Duesenberg, spawning the popular saying "what a doozy".

      http://www.carpages.co.uk/news/news-images/duesenberg_model_j_convertible_coupe-27_05_06.jpg

      I'd agree that it is a piece of art, as it really does not have a function in these times besides being in a showroom for paying customers to admire, similar to a piece of art hanging on a wall on exhibition.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        Hispano Suiza : detail can be Art πŸ˜‰

        http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/335564/L'oiseau-copie-net.jpg

        http://northstargallery.com/CARS/aaaa54web.jpg

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • DanielD Offline
          Daniel
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          Can an automobile be art? Yes. Art does not have to have the sole function of "art." Any man-made endeavor which transcends the sum of its parts is art and evokes an emotional response, whether it be a car, architecture, or a painting, is art. Of course, in all things artistic, it's in the eye of the beholder.

          My avatar is an anachronism.

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          • olisheaO Offline
            olishea
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            as long as its not functional it can be coined 'art'.

            strictly speaking:

            as soon as you use it; it loses art status.

            oli

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            • honoluludesktopH Offline
              honoluludesktop
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              How about the engine builder? He's not required to polish the top of a block, but he may, out of response to his sense of "art". A lot of parts of a car, its upholstery, rims, lights, the paint job, etc., etc. are canvases for some artist.

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
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                Maybe this?

                http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gTJMEP-c2fo/SHSof7e-d6I/AAAAAAAABRU/g8524aooDBE/s400/car_art_36.jpg

                http://www.solos-art.com

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
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                  @olishea said:

                  as long as its not functional it can be coined 'art'.

                  strictly speaking:

                  as soon as you use it; it loses art status.

                  How about architecture then? Only useless (non-usable) buildings can be "art"?

                  Gai...

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
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                    ooooh!!

                    now you gonna start a war. πŸ’š

                    Here is my contribution.. πŸ˜‰

                    http://bonniesamueldesigns.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/painted-houuse.jpg

                    http://www.solos-art.com

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                    • david_hD Offline
                      david_h
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                      Of course a car can be art. In fact, wasn't the Land Rover/ Range Rover installed in the British Museum of Art as a art/design/engineering Masterpiece? It wears the queen's badge does it not? I also agree about the Doozy.

                      My ideas of Cars that could be considered ART
                      Jaguar XKE --beautiful elegant lines and curves. Defines Sexy!
                      XKE.jpg

                      1936 Hispano-suiza. . .Declared by many to be the most beautiful car ever built.

                      Hispano-Suiza_J12_Front-view.JPG

                      The Volkswagen Beetle --iconic This is a 1953 Split rear window.


                      53 split.jpg

                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                      • soloS Offline
                        solo
                        last edited by

                        Again I must insist....

                        "a car could never be art, because for something to be art, it can have no purpose other than itself".

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          That's nonsense, Pete. Why would the two things exclude each other?

                          Gai...

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                          • david_hD Offline
                            david_h
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                            Oh . ..I picked em cuz I just thought they were beautiful . . .to me. . that's art. . .. and besides. . .

                            Who died and made you Robert Hughes? πŸ’š

                            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              IMO anything ("man-made") that pleases the eye (ear, taste, smell...) be it useful or useless (otherwise) can be considered art.

                              Just look at Arts & Crafts or Art Deco - that's exactly the point they started. No-one tells me a beautiful Art Nouveau furniture cannot be considered art just because you can sit on it!

                              http://carpentersworkshopgallery.com/diaporama/498.jpg

                              Gai...

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                              • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                honoluludesktop
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                                If the question is "anything" art, then NO, not all things are art. Somethings are enclusively art, while others, that may have some function, can also be art.
                                http://www.bmwdrives.com/gallery/BMWartcars/calder/3.0CSL_calder_1.jpg

                                1975 BMW 3.0 CSL by Alexander Calder

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Well, if I keep myself to my own definition that "anything that pleases the eye", to me at least, those BMW's are not too artistic. But then its a millennia old discussion what art is actually and whether it is always subjective or there is a kind of Platonic idea according to which there are art pieces that are definitely art even without critics stating it. πŸ˜†

                                  Gai...

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                                  • soloS Offline
                                    solo
                                    last edited by

                                    I was hoping to avoid a "what is art" discussion, as it's proven to be a pointless debate.

                                    However I was more looking for a what is NOT art, but I guess if the answer is "it looks pretty so it's art" then there really cannot be a debate or discussion.

                                    http://www.solos-art.com

                                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    • DanielD Offline
                                      Daniel
                                      last edited by

                                      I don't think you can ask if something is art and avoid the what-is-art question.
                                      Art is often in the eye of the beholder - what is one man's metal sculpture is another man's pile of scrap metal.

                                      My avatar is an anachronism.

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                                      • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                        honoluludesktop
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                                        Hi Gai, Guess you had to be there. Calder's work is like that. The first time I saw one of his stables exhibited along with some sketches, I was struck how poorly photographs conveyed their beauty. However I did post the car "sight unseen".

                                        http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;lnizWqr0oVMvhM;http://www.wyldeart.com/Galleries

                                        Don't know if art must be beautiful;

                                        http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_r0IkIWe8gKs/SFc3IyWF5LI/AAAAAAAAAI0/i6ygFVRwozs/s400/SJP2.jpg

                                        is a beautiful couple "Art"?

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                                        • soloS Offline
                                          solo
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          what is one man's metal sculpture is another man's pile of scrap metal.

                                          aha, what I was hoping for πŸ’š

                                          So.... if the artist intended the metal to be composed in a way to represent an art piece then it's purposed use is just that...art, and will not be used or driven, eaten or anything else as it is art and will be exhibited as art.

                                          A car is designed and built to be driven, it's purpose is mobility, therefore it cannot strictly be art.

                                          http://www.solos-art.com

                                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                          • david_hD Offline
                                            david_h
                                            last edited by

                                            INteresting. .. .ON Wait Wait Don't Tell me on Saturday, they discussed this very because a janitor in Some European Museum had apparently discarded several "Sculptures" that he took for piles of garbage on the floor that he was sure was meant to be thrown away. 🀣

                                            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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