All Ancient Rome models from 3DWarehouse together

Danik

I've made my first attempt to render some of my models as a video, so don't be severe
The Kerkythea render has been used, Photon map engine was at high mode. Currently I don't know how the lightning spots and other artefacts could be eliminated. Also, as it well seen, I connected several pieces of video to one, because 2nd and 3rd models are to complicated and I had to render them in parts. Transitions from part to part (for baths of Caracalla) are not smoothed in brightness aspect, i don't know yet how to perform it in a good manner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itGrqNJAO7Q&feature=player_detailpage

Gaieus

Danik, definitely impressive renders.
(I have known your work from before of course).

I know that it is not easy to do a good animation. What I have learnt however is that too long scenes when moving the camera are not too good. Nowadays everything is a bit sped up and if you watch a movie, scenes are cut/edited not to be longer than about 5-10 seconds each. I have just picked an exmple of the many excellent works by gabaedu (it was in the side bar as "related" to yours although I know them):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCdc7bkMtu0&feature=related

Watch how most of the "scenes" are short (5-8 seconds), camera movement is simple (mostly just a transition between two cameras) and he puts the video together with a transition effect between these scenes.

Now this allows you to

avoid clunky camera movements that come from not too easy and smooth camera path creation in SU
as well as to leave some uninteresting parts out (I mean all the buildings are interesting but for instance when you come out of the Basicica Maxentiana, you are staring at nothing - not a good scene).

Another thing is materials. Even a simple render with not too tweaking of the materials is already stunning compared to SU's sketchy export (although that may have its place, too) but some reflections here and there, some real water materials in the batchs would tune this up even better.

I hope you do not take it wrong; I know I also (always) need these feedbacks. Like I have a single, one camera path in a more than 2 minute long video but while travelling over the river to and back, it is a bit uninteresting IMO.

L.VII.C

Hi to all

I have edited the model of the palace of Domitian. I have added 4 new interior, now the model has 6 interior, including the four main halls of the palace.
I post the screenshots in two parts. The second part presents the interiors of the four main halls.

Please download the latest version of the model http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=9c95b23ebd85e2106626df250d84698&hl=en&ct=lc

Part 1

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Part 2

Aula Regia

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Triclinium

[url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20triclinium-3.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian triclinium-3-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20triclinium%202-3.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian triclinium 2-3-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20triclinium%203-3.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian triclinium 3-3-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20triclinium%204-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian triclinium 4-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20triclinium%205-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian triclinium 5-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r]

Basilica

[url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20basilica-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian basilica-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20basilica%202-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian basilica 2-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20basilica%203-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian basilica 3-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20basilica%204-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian basilica 4-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20basilica%205-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian basilica 5-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r]

Lararium

[url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20Lararium-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian Lararium-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20Lararium%202-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian Lararium 2-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20Lararium%203-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian Lararium 3-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20Lararium%204-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian Lararium 4-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r] [url=http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace%20of%20Domitian%20Lararium%205-1.html:vo7llv3r][img:vo7llv3r]http://www.picatom.com/1y/Palace of Domitian Lararium 5-1-th.jpg[/img:vo7llv3r][/url:vo7llv3r]

pichuneke

Fantastic coin I found on Flickr:

A Magnificent and Exceptional Roman Orichalcum Sestertius of Trajan (98-117 C.E.), a Splendid View of the Circus Maximus as Restored by Trajan by Ancient Art, on Flickr

You can see it bigger clicking on it.

Gaieus

The earliest coin I've found was from Claudius. That was also really nice (and big - later coins tend to get smaller and smaller)

pichuneke

I thought it was a good idea to bring here coins and paintings or what else of Rome's ancient monuments. You can find a lot of them in that flickr's group. I remember seeing the Colosseum with medallions in a coin.

Edit: Another one:

A Rare, Magnificent, and Important Roman Orichalcum Sestertius of Caracalla (198-217 C.E.), a Remarkable View of the Circus Maximus, the Finest Known of the Type by Ancient Art, on Flickr

QuintusCinna

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but why is the Temple of Vespasian I made for my M.S. thesis transferred in to Google Sketchup? I'm fine with it, but I'm rather surprised. (see link - http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Article/862364). He did improve it some, but the exact metrics are still there. The Roman Forum he built was, I see, my work, that he re-edited the buildings (and did a better job) from the framework I had. I used vrml and built it back in 2003 to 2006. I do like that he improved it and shared it with the public (I'm not a greedy intellectual hoarder), but I kind of feel like he took it to have everybody praise him as the complete genius of this. I would have liked to have had some credit early on.

ELYSIUM

are you sure it´s your work ?

Aerilius

Whether it's a matter of copyright or of accurate referencing, I don't think that Z-Akh69 or L.VII.C had bad intentions. It's usual to set value on accurate quoting/referencing in scientific circles, but not so much in a hobbyist context. However no 3d work (SketchUp files) has been posted here only 2d previews, so it's hard to judge.

I'm very confident that Z-Akh69 or L.VII.C would add references if you wish so (at the moment they haven't been around here, and this thread was rather quiet).

Z-Akh69

Hello, I use ancient reference for building my temple of vespasian. It's a very hard work...I have a new version for now but not already finish for the moment. Here some screen of my work -

I don't want to give my reference. It's a long job with many calculs and i'm working on this projet since august 2010...

Danik

After a long pause I've constructed the new shared model - the palace of Diocletian. The main improvements are new colums, pilasters and orders.
Some simple renders:

The link for downloading:

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20998404/PALACE_OF_DIOCLETIAN_1711_skp

The link on Google warehouse:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=75ba664f456ae9e84edd4b8b0a780fdb

Danik

Please visit my site http://world3dhistory.com/?lang=en
I will post there my 3D models, articles about it and other useful information.
Welcome!

pichuneke

@danik said:

Please visit my site http://world3dhistory.com/?lang=en
I will post there my 3D models, articles about it and other useful information.
Welcome!

It would be incredible to visit them in a game engine like Cryengine or Unreal... at least part of it (I understand if you want to make profit of your models and don't want to release them for free).

Danik

@pichuneke said:

It would be incredible to visit them in a game engine like Cryengine or Unreal... at least part of it (I understand if you want to make profit of your models and don't want to release them for free).

Why it would be incredible? Of course I have some commercial projects now and looking for more, but in a free time I still working with free models. For example, this years I plan to present a model of baths of Diocletian and integrate baths of Caracalla, baths of Diocletian and palace of Diocletian in a game engine like OpenSpace3D or Cryengine, and it will be in free use. as for website, it was created just for making the historical 3D reconstruction more popular.

pichuneke

@danik said:

@pichuneke said:

It would be incredible to visit them in a game engine like Cryengine or Unreal... at least part of it (I understand if you want to make profit of your models and don't want to release them for free).

Why it would be incredible? Of course I have some commercial projects now and looking for more, but in a free time I still working with free models. For example, this years I plan to present a model of baths of Diocletian and integrate baths of Caracalla, baths of Diocletian and palace of Diocletian in a game engine like OpenSpace3D or Cryengine, and it will be in free use. as for website, it was created just for making the historical 3D reconstruction more popular.

Let us know when you release them!

Danik

Of course, just like always! I'm planning to release the palace of Diocletian with new interiors and a game integration of it approximately in summer. As for baths of Diocletian, it's very big project, and I want to do them much better than baths of Caracalla. The estimated release date for it - the end of December

Danik

All 3D panorama pictures are added to website:

http://world3dhistory.com/?page_id=133
http://world3dhistory.com/?p=17
http://world3dhistory.com/?p=80

Aerilius

Great panoramas!

By the way, Danik, do better not add all panoramas to one single page, having so maaany Flash Player instances (all downloading megapixel images) makes the browser slow or unstable.
I often distribute them over subpages, or I enable the flash only when the user clicks it.
If you know some javascript, you can take a look at this page, I set the flash object to %(#000000)[style="display:none"] and %(#000000)[src=""], and %(#000000)[onclick="var pano = this.childNodes[1].childNodes[11]; pano.parentNode.style.display='inline'; pano.src = 'http://www.you3dview.com/viewer/viewer.swf?xml=http://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/226/viewer.xml'"]

Danik

Hi Aerilius,
Thanks a lot for this advice, i'll surely investigate it!
Actually I want to increase the quality of my panorama pictures. When I constructing panorama in Kerkythea using spherical mode the top of the view (above the viewpoint) has some distortions, as in the attached picture. Could you please tell hoy you resolve this problem?
Also, your renderings are of good sharpness, but my renderings are rather fuzzy. Could you please tell what settings do you use to achieve such quality?

Danik

Hi to all. I've made the first video for palace of Diocletian. Gaieus, I tried to reduce scenes time as you said. I plan to add new interiors to it this summer, and then to create new video with improved textures, fountain animations etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-OSzdhr_z0U

Aerilius, please reply on my questions if you have a time