Who knows something about Sketchupbar.com
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@fletch said:
Brian,
@egoddess said:
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There is another site http://www.sketchupbbs.com < http://www.sketchupbbs.com>
It is a commercial services site, its administrator often copy and paste many articles from SCF to his site to reach his business purpose.
He even releases the twilight cracks in his site:
< http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1>...and will never be in pocket by using your works or releasing cracks and pirated software.
We respectfully request that the administrator of sketchupbbs immediately remove all distribution of Twilight Render from the sketchupbbs servers/forums.
We will find someone who respects copyrights to help us make available a Chinese version of Twilight. But it will NOT BE DISTRIBUTED LEGALLY ANYWHERE OTHER THAN OUR WEBSITE.
Allowing/encouraging your forum members to distribute stolen property will give you only a bad name around the world.
May I kindly suggest that ALL ILLEGAL DISTRIBUTIONS BE REMOVED for ALL software?
Thank you,
We've deleted the illegal links and attachements uploaded by our member
We'd like to translate your software into simlifiled words.
member TAS_1985,a young guy in study now,was expelled.so he can't represent the illegal links. -
Pirating is one thing, selling pirated software is a new low....
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and below is the proof of WHERE THE CRACK OF TWILIGHT COME FROM
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Brian, it's pretty hard to refute this, you clearly are distributing commercial plug ins.
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@bianhai said:
Together you and we shall condemn and annihilate such action; we will always be good friends.
Ooohhh yeah... We're such good friends...
@bianhai said:
I will ask them to put an end to this activity immediately.
Can't you - at the same time - take some actions at your own web-site...?!?
@bianhai said:
In China, we are the main agency of google sketchup software.
If this is really true, I'm surprised to see and learn that you're linking to pirated software...
Hopefully Google will step in here and condamn all this... -
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I'm shocked...
I sure hope that Google and SCF will condamn this and also take actions toward a ban of these users...!I'm so pis*ed...
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Even Vray is pirated...
Looks like sketchupbbs needs to get rid of all the moderators also as they seem to be the ones spreading the piracy.
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THIS MAKES ME SO MAD...!!!
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On top of all, I can't believe that a cracked version for $ 50 would be too appealing when you can buy a legit license for only $ 59 - $9 more!
But that's just one little side note.
Our forum policy clearly states that not only distributing pirated material is strictly forbidden here (read direct attachment or via PM's) but even mentioning and posting such resources, too.
Of course, I don't consider this particular discussion as such - we are talking about piracy in general and piracy in certain, particular examples now (and to tell members why I am not too much concerned about this pert of it - search bots are disallowed in the Corner Bar - no wonder why)
So Purplewind, I would consider to take Frederick's (or Fletch') request and remove any kind of version of Twilight you are distributing on your site a very friendly approach towards the international SketchUp community and all those who develop these wonderful plugins (not confined to Twilight of course).
I am pretty sure that you could easily make a "deal" with the Twilight Render developers. They are not stupid and realise what a big market the Chinese speaking world would be. But follow some basic rules, please.
Also (and now I am talking for SketchUcation), I am not pleased with SketchUpBAR simply re-posting interviews (or any other, published material) released at SketchUcation - like in this case with Goh Chun Hee (see the original article).
Generally speaking, a news site is most of the times glad to see its articles mentioned elsewhere but the general "policy" which can be beneficial for both parties is to post something (some bits) about it and provide a link to the original (yes, I know that's also a translation). In your article there is not even a mention of the original article (except that you didn't change "The Daily CatchUp" and "TDC".
Or here is TIG's new Lathe plugin (now also shared on a file sharing site I am pretty sure he does not know of). I am not saying that SketchUcation has any copyrights over his plugins but it would probably be a very friendly approach to ask him first.
Anyway, all in all I am pleased that you are here and we can talk about these issues in public and openly and looking forward to a good relationship with you guys based on mutual respect of each other (and first of all, of course, developers of programs who work hard tzo deliver applications very useful still mostly available and accesible for everyone).
Now as for sketchupbbs - which is not YOU and your site -, that's a different thing as I am reading the posts above. Something really must be taken against serious piracy (although I am afraid that a bunch of enthusiasts as we are talking here, we won't be able to do much).
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I have merged the two topics now. Sorry if it causes a bit of mess but there is a good reason for this - they are both about the same issue and it is serious enough not to let it scattered everywhere.
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Purplewind, I see that nothing has been done regarding the pirated software on your site, it's still available for download.
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@Bianhai - Brian
The more I browse on your web-site (http://sketchupbbs.com/), the more surprised I get...You definitely seem to have a huge part in the distribution of the pirated version of Twilight Render...
You're even posting the Twilight render tutorial videos as if it were your own and without giving credits to the author...
Please check out: this thread...You claim to be the official Chinese SketchUp forum... If this is really right, I sure hope Google and everyone else will ban you and condamn your website...
What you're doing is really shamefull and extremely bad practise...!
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Purplewind, looks like you and Brian have a rivalry, you are showing him up as a pirate to make yourself look good, but let's not be to quick to claim innocence...
A case of the pot calling the kettle black.
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Every time when he(Brain) makes conflict, he calls me “young guy”,” was expelled”, actually I am an architect working in the China State Construction Engrg Corp. Southwest academe(the CSWADI).
Until last year I am one of the administrators in the Sketchupbbs.com. I found that site was going against my principia, so I left there all by myself. I found Brain want to make a profit from associates by lawless transshipment; toll downloads, and sells pirated software……and other actions. As a matter of fact I loved sketchupbbs.com until last year, but now I feel sorry about it. Recently he got the China SU dealership, but he never stop releasing cracks and pirated software , and still be in pocket from those student associates by charging downloads .
I think the aim we build up commercial services site is all right, BUT he never incite a single model, everyday he copy and paste things to his site to charge, I don’t want to say more. -
If I understand correctly both sites work on a point/rank system
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Hey, what a witch hunt.
I don't think SCF as a forum should deal with it.
It's better that the people that are getting hit by this (developers of commercial plugins) react to that on their own behalf.I prefer Sketchucation being a SU forum for the sketchup USERS in the first place, and not the forum for defending the commercial intrests of the commercial people here.
ps: I am not saying that piracy is a good thing as a note. But yes, it happens all over the web.
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Chris, please...
@kwistenbiebel said:
I don't think SCF as a forum should deal with it.
I prefer Sketchucation being a SU forum for the sketchup USERS in the first place, and not the forum for defending the commercial intrests of the commercial people here.First of all, please note that this is posted in the Corner bar...
I posted this here in first place in order to see if anybody knew anything about Sketchupbar.com...Just like you can leave other posts/threads where you don't have an interest, you can also just leave this one...
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Oh, I have no problem with you posting this and I enjoy reading it.
I am just anticipating on 'official' SCF actions/responses, which I think would be misplaced.
For the rest, I said what I said.Sketchup (forums) for the people!
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Kwist, I kinda disagree, SCF is the place of choice that authors of amazing plugins, free and commercial come to first in order to distribute and sell their goods, this is also the attraction SCF has as anyone in the SU world knows that this is the go to place to see, learn and get the latest plugins and news.
I believe we should show solidarity and stand by these guys, make a public showing of support.
Take for instance Whaat's subdivide and smooth plugin, here is a guy that has done so much for everyone, his generosity is endless, all that he wanted was some compensation for all the time he invested, so these guys pirate it and they either freely distribute it or gainfully. Does this motivate dale (Whaat) to bring out a newer updated version only to be given away free? probably not, so he loses and so do we (the users), as his commercial script is IMO the best thing to happen to SU.
I will use this forum in anyway to protect and defend these valuable members.
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