Who knows something about Sketchupbar.com

notareal

egoddess, "providing unauthorised translation" like you say is same offering pirated software, even if you offer it "free". Now as you know that you are doing against the will of programmers of these softwares, please remove those. Twilight, Podium and actually all I seen you are offering do have a licensing scheme and you need to crack it somehow if you want to use it without license. If you really want to contribute and help to translate software contact the authors. I an 100% sure that author of Twilight Render is interested if you are offering a translation help, even thought actions of people behind Sketchupbar do not promise a lot, but distribution of that must be happen properly. Twilight is made for everyone, it's really bargain - and if you don't effort to it why not to use Kerkythea, it's free and already been translated to many languages or Luxrender, that as open source can even be distributed from your site, if you provide the source code.

purplewind

I’ll tell you something about Sketchupbar.com
By tas_1985(Hu mingqi) on Wed Sep 17, 2009 13:00 pm
http://www.sketchupbar.com

Hello everyone! My web name is tas_1985, please forgive my poor English, I am a Chinese architect, and I’m one of the administrators of Sketchupbar.com.
FIRST of all I want to say is that: Sketchupbar.com is NOT a commercial services site, we DO NOT gain any income from this site and everything you can download from here is free! We even don’t have web advertisements. We are a professional sketchup team, not sellers. We build this site to provide a study place for the SUERS, and for free, of course.
Maybe you all will find some so-called “unauthorized translations”, “pirated 1001 bit and Podium 1.7” ,actually we got some of the authorization, others , we make them for the purpose of study, not for sale. And we NEVER release crack, pirated software.
For examples:
The 1001 bit translation, we got the authorization from Goh Chun Hee(the author of 1001), he has authorized purplewind（one of our moderators） .You can contact him to affirm.

Goh Chun Hee
gohch <a_t> 1001bit.com

I have got the authorization about Artlantis tutorials Chinese translations for free from the Abvent international manager:
Mr. Gulden
gulden <a_t> abvent.com

About the translations of Twilight Render:
The translation author “Pisces” has announced that only the copyright of the translation is hold, not the whole right of the software. And not for sale, just for the purpose of study. If this is illegal, we will delete it and never do this again.

Thanks
Best regards.
tas_1985

PS:
There is another site http://www.sketchupbbs.com
It is a commercial services site, its administrator often copy and paste many articles from SCF to his site to reach his business purpose.
He even releases the twilight cracks in his site:
http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1

And there is always a “intense relationship” between us. Actually they often supplant and obloquy us in many places. I don’t know the ID Frederik is or not one of their members, I make announcement here to tell you, our friends, we love sketchup, and will never be in pocket by using your works or releasing cracks and pirated software.
I believe everything will be clear one day, thanks again.

Fletch

Thank you for your reply, egoddess,

My name is Shane Fletcher, Partner at Twilight Render.com

We respectfully request your site take action against this illegal distribution immediately. Twilight Render is very inexpensive and high quality. There is no reason to steal it. We made Twilight inexpensive so that it would be accessible to everyone.

Twilight Render has obviously been ILLEGALLY PIRATED AND REDISTRIBUTED ON YOUR SITE. This is both sad and shameful. If it were truly "For Educational Purposes" then Pisces would have contacted us and ASKED for permission to translate and redistribute. We were never asked nor contacted, though our contact information is easily available.

In addition, Pisces, or a partner, has "Re-branded" Twilight Render for this illegal distribution, changing the logo from yellow to green, and Illegally re-used a rendering WE PERSONALLY CREATED with Twilight.
%(#BF4000)[So they have stolen:

Our Software, 1. our Logo, 1. our Images, and 1. our potential customers.

In addition, Pisces is apparently claiming copyright on something Pisces was never given permission to do, and obviously knows is illegal and wrong. We, again, respectfully request your site take action against this illegal distribution immediately.]

We are pleased with all the talented and creative Chinese users finding Twilight Render so easy and fun to use.

Twilight Render is very OPEN AND WELCOMING to creating versions in different languages, and we are also committed to providing help for "educational" institutions... those interested need only to ASK and be given permission. We will gladly work with someone to translate the software, but rights will NOT be given to redistribute on any other website for pay or free. We are the only one with the right to distribute Twilight Render. Pisces clearly knows this.

Shane Fletcher
Partner, Twilight Render

bianhai

Hello Coen Naninck, it has been a while. We have written a mail in advance to inform their administrator about your condition. Such theft of your article is shameful.
That website has just been established by armatures by stealing a lot of links from our website and original insertion and articles from your website.
Together you and we shall condemn and annihilate such action; we will always be go
we will always be good friends.
I will ask them to put an end to this activity immediately.

Yours truly,
Besides, I want to add your website and friendly link to mine.
In China, we are the main agency of google sketchup software. the information you search via google is:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd8dnz54_5fm5hf5
brian

solo

Purplewind, thanks for the clarification.

I had a quick look at the sketchupbbs site and found many interesting things, and a few surprises.

http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1

Frederik

@Purplewind
I'm sorry to say, but I find this statement ridiculous...

Allow me to quote Shane Fletcher:

@fletch said:

Thank you for your reply, egoddess,

My name is Shane Fletcher, Partner at Twilight Render.com

We respectfully request your site take action against this illegal distribution immediately. Twilight Render is very inexpensive and high quality. There is no reason to steal it. We made Twilight inexpensive so that it would be accessible to everyone.

Twilight Render has obviously been ILLEGALLY PIRATED AND REDISTRIBUTED ON YOUR SITE. This is both sad and shameful. If it were truly "For Educational Purposes" then Pisces would have contacted us and ASKED for permission to translate and redistribute. We were never asked nor contacted, though our contact information is easily available.

In addition, Pisces, or a partner, has "Re-branded" Twilight Render for this illegal distribution, changing the logo from yellow to green, and Illegally re-used a rendering WE PERSONALLY CREATED with Twilight.
%(#BF4000)[So they have stolen:

Our Software, 1. our Logo, 1. our Images, and 1. our potential customers.

In addition, Pisces is apparently claiming copyright on something Pisces was never given permission to do, and obviously knows is illegal and wrong. We, again, respectfully request your site take action against this illegal distribution immediately.]

We are pleased with all the talented and creative Chinese users finding Twilight Render so easy and fun to use.

Twilight Render is very OPEN AND WELCOMING to creating versions in different languages, and we are also committed to providing help for "educational" institutions... those interested need only to ASK and be given permission. We will gladly work with someone to translate the software, but rights will NOT be given to redistribute on any other website for pay or free. We are the only one with the right to distribute Twilight Render. Pisces clearly knows this.

Shane Fletcher
Partner, Twilight Render

solo

I had a quick look at the sketchupbbs site and found many interesting things, and a few surprises.

http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1

Sharwe is a respected poster on this site, so this was a surprise to me, but what an appropriate avatar..

Brian, in the same thread where twilight is pirated, you even made an appearance, so you cannot say you know not whats going on...

Frederik

@Brian...
As far as I can see, you (http://www.sketchupbbs.com) also seem to be linking to distributions of illegal software...
Or can I please have your comment on why I can find similar threads on your web-site...??
Please take a look here...

I can see that you personally have posted a "Thanks for this"...

Fletch

@solo said:

http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1

They do not want people pirating their OWN PIRACY

Fletch

Brian,

@egoddess said:

...
There is another site http://www.sketchupbbs.com < http://www.sketchupbbs.com>
It is a commercial services site, its administrator often copy and paste many articles from SCF to his site to reach his business purpose.
He even releases the twilight cracks in his site:
< http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1>

...and will never be in pocket by using your works or releasing cracks and pirated software.

We respectfully request that the administrator of sketchupbbs immediately remove all distribution of Twilight Render from the sketchupbbs servers/forums.

We will find someone who respects copyrights to help us make available a Chinese version of Twilight. But it will NOT BE DISTRIBUTED LEGALLY ANYWHERE OTHER THAN OUR WEBSITE.

Allowing/encouraging your forum members to distribute stolen property will give you only a bad name around the world.

May I kindly suggest that ALL ILLEGAL DISTRIBUTIONS BE REMOVED for ALL software?

Thank you,

purplewind

@solo said:

Purplewind, thanks for the clarification.

I had a quick look at the sketchupbbs site and found many interesting things, and a few surprises.

http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1

Thanks solo.
Yes,the url is no longer available.
They remove the illegal software and cracks so quickly.
If you are interested, I will post more proof of pirate and illegal software and screen shortcuts of their site (http://www.sketchupbbs.com) in this topic later or in the future.
I believe time will tell us who is the thief on earth.

tas_1985

@frederik said:

@Purplewind
I'm sorry to say, but I find this statement ridiculous...

Allow me to quote Shane Fletcher:

@fletch said:

Thank you for your reply, egoddess,

My name is Shane Fletcher, Partner at Twilight Render.com

We respectfully request your site take action against this illegal distribution immediately. Twilight Render is very inexpensive and high quality. There is no reason to steal it. We made Twilight inexpensive so that it would be accessible to everyone.

Twilight Render has obviously been ILLEGALLY PIRATED AND REDISTRIBUTED ON YOUR SITE. This is both sad and shameful. If it were truly "For Educational Purposes" then Pisces would have contacted us and ASKED for permission to translate and redistribute. We were never asked nor contacted, though our contact information is easily available.

In addition, Pisces, or a partner, has "Re-branded" Twilight Render for this illegal distribution, changing the logo from yellow to green, and Illegally re-used a rendering WE PERSONALLY CREATED with Twilight.
%(#BF4000)[So they have stolen:

Our Software, 1. our Logo, 1. our Images, and 1. our potential customers.

In addition, Pisces is apparently claiming copyright on something Pisces was never given permission to do, and obviously knows is illegal and wrong. We, again, respectfully request your site take action against this illegal distribution immediately.]

We are pleased with all the talented and creative Chinese users finding Twilight Render so easy and fun to use.

Twilight Render is very OPEN AND WELCOMING to creating versions in different languages, and we are also committed to providing help for "educational" institutions... those interested need only to ASK and be given permission. We will gladly work with someone to translate the software, but rights will NOT be given to redistribute on any other website for pay or free. We are the only one with the right to distribute Twilight Render. Pisces clearly knows this.

Shane Fletcher
Partner, Twilight Render

That's clear, we will take action against this illegal distribution immediately.
But could you please take a good look at my words ,and have a good thought about us,and our site.

solo

Even Silo has a pirated version available as a rapidspread link on sketchupbbs

Frederik

@tas_1985 said:

That's clear, we will take action against this illegal distribution immediately.

I'm pleased to hear this, however, I'm not going to be satisfied before I see some real actions take place...

Allowing this kind of software piracy and breaching copyrights are shamefull...!

Like Fletch just wrote...

@fletch said:

Twilight Render is very OPEN AND WELCOMING to creating versions in different languages, and we are also committed to providing help for "educational" institutions... those interested need only to ASK and be given permission.

We will gladly work with someone to translate the software, but rights will NOT be given to redistribute on any other website for pay or free. We are the only one with the right to distribute Twilight Render. Pisces clearly knows this.

@tas_1985 said:

But could you please take a good look at my words ,and have a good thought about us,and our site.

Don't know what to say here...
From what I've seen so far, I don't feel I can trust you guys...
It's really bad practise that you do what you do and accept what you accept...
Perhaps it's a culturel thing, but making amendments to a software is illegal...
Distributing it without permission is also illegal...

Let me see what actions you're taking and maybe we can start a co-operation...

purplewind

pirate hypershot
http://sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32223
pirate subdivide&smooth
http://sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=12991&extra=&page=1

pirate hypershot

pirate subdivide&smooth

bianhai

@fletch said:

Brian,

@egoddess said:

...
There is another site http://www.sketchupbbs.com < http://www.sketchupbbs.com>
It is a commercial services site, its administrator often copy and paste many articles from SCF to his site to reach his business purpose.
He even releases the twilight cracks in his site:
< http://www.sketchupbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=32087&extra=page%3D1>

...and will never be in pocket by using your works or releasing cracks and pirated software.

We respectfully request that the administrator of sketchupbbs immediately remove all distribution of Twilight Render from the sketchupbbs servers/forums.

We will find someone who respects copyrights to help us make available a Chinese version of Twilight. But it will NOT BE DISTRIBUTED LEGALLY ANYWHERE OTHER THAN OUR WEBSITE.

Allowing/encouraging your forum members to distribute stolen property will give you only a bad name around the world.

May I kindly suggest that ALL ILLEGAL DISTRIBUTIONS BE REMOVED for ALL software?

Thank you,

We've deleted the illegal links and attachements uploaded by our member
We'd like to translate your software into simlifiled words.
member TAS_1985,a young guy in study now,was expelled.so he can't represent the illegal links.

my e_mail:web@Sektchupbbs.com

solo

Pirating is one thing, selling pirated software is a new low....

purplewind

and below is the proof of WHERE THE CRACK OF TWILIGHT COME FROM

post by administrator of www.sketchupbbs.com

solo

Brian, it's pretty hard to refute this, you clearly are distributing commercial plug ins.

Frederik

@bianhai said:

Together you and we shall condemn and annihilate such action; we will always be good friends.

Ooohhh yeah... We're such good friends...

@bianhai said:

I will ask them to put an end to this activity immediately.

Can't you - at the same time - take some actions at your own web-site...?!?

@bianhai said:

In China, we are the main agency of google sketchup software.

If this is really true, I'm surprised to see and learn that you're linking to pirated software...
Hopefully Google will step in here and condamn all this...