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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      Anyone got any idea if I can use nokogiri with SU? http://nokogiri.rubyforge.org/nokogiri/
      Says either 1.8 or 1.9 - but the install is a linux sudo command - can't find any way to download the package manually...

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        tbd
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        RubyForge - Page not found

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        (rubyforge.org)

        1. download the .gem
        2. rename to .gz or open it with Total Commander
        3. have a look inside

        or

        gem install nokogiri if you have Ruby installed with Gems support

        or

        git clone git://github.com/tenderlove/nokogiri.git

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          gem install nokogiri if you have Ruby installed with Gems support

          I had Ruby installed so I entered the command into a console.

          
          C;\Users\Thomas>gem install nokogiri
          Successfully installed nokogiri-1.3.3-x86-mswin32
          1 gem installed
          Installing ri documentation for nokogiri-1.3.3-x86-mswin32...
          Updating ri class cache with 2176 classes...
          Installing RDoc documentation for nokogiri-1.3.3-x86-mswin32...
          
          C;\Users\Thomas>
          
          

          Seems to have worked. But how do I get the files required added and working with SU ruby?

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          • tbdT Offline
            tbd
            last edited by

            search in the gems directory for nokogiri (the lib and ext directory). you can make a test outside Sketchup and use ProcMon to look what files it loads and copy those in SU Plugins subdir

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              toxicvoxel
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              Having explored a few options in the past I settled on writing a .DLL in .NET that uses the powerful XML query functionality of LINQ to to do the data crunching. By doing this you could call a simple function through COM to retrieve/update specific node and attribute values from SU Ruby. If you do not have knowledge of any of the main .NET languages you could possibly explore using IronRuby for this purpose.

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                search in the gems directory for nokogiri (the lib and ext directory). you can make a test outside Sketchup and use ProcMon to look what files it loads and copy those in SU Plugins subdir

                I copied nokogiri.rb and nokogiri folder from the lib folder to the SU Plugin folder.

                When I start SU I get an error message:

                
                Error Loading File nokogiri.rb
                126; The specified module could not be found.   - C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/nokogiri/1.8/nokogiri.so
                
                

                Which is strange - because the file is there; And a Console test:

                
                File.exist?('C;/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/nokogiri/1.8/nokogiri.so')
                true
                
                

                So why it claims it's not there - I have no idea.

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  @toxicvoxel said:

                  Having explored a few options in the past I settled on writing a .DLL in .NET that uses the powerful XML query functionality of LINQ to to do the data crunching. By doing this you could call a simple function through COM to retrieve/update specific node and attribute values from SU Ruby. If you do not have knowledge of any of the main .NET languages you could possibly explore using IronRuby for this purpose.

                  I've briefly sniffed at C# previously - but I have no idea on how to do what you suggest.

                  I find it very odd that there isn't a built in XML support in Ruby considering how common XML is.

                  ...maybe I can send the raw XML content to a Webdialog and have a JS parse it - feeding it back to Ruby. Not ideal - but I can't get any other solutions to work.

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                  • J Offline
                    Jim
                    last edited by

                    It's probably just a matter of getting the paths and require's right. Sometimes when require'ing a .so you might need to respect it's capitalization.

                    requires dezip.so'

                    require 'Dezip'

                    Append your $LOAD_PATH to include the library folder:

                    On windows (in SetchUp):

                    $LOAD_PATH.concat eval(c:/ruby/bin/ruby.exe -e "p $:" )

                    This appends the installed Ruby $LOAD_PATH to SketchUp. (Not well tested by me)

                    Hi

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      I'd like to make the lib work by not having full Ruby installed. Want to ship it as a normal SU plugin.

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                        toxicvoxel
                        last edited by

                        In basic terms this article may be helpful to explain the principle:
                        http://stackoverflow.com/questions/265879/can-ruby-import-a-net-dll

                        If you use IronRuby you may be able to write the XML parser .NET class by leveraging your curent ruby skills.
                        (You will need to do some homework to confirm that you could make the IronRuby .NET class com-visible though.)
                        Alternatively if you know java you could use J#.NET.

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                        • tbdT Offline
                          tbd
                          last edited by

                          I will try to look tomorrow when I get on my Windows machine and make a SU friendly package of a XML parser.

                          It all depends on what XML files you need to parse - if they are static, then you can write a specific XML parser yourself and save the troubles. I wouldn't use XML for anything, hate that format 😉

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            There are several different uses for XML I'd like to use. I like the format, maybe from working with websites...

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I will try to look tomorrow when I get on my Windows machine and make a SU friendly package of a XML parser.

                              It all depends on what XML files you need to parse - if they are static, then you can write a specific XML parser yourself and save the troubles. I wouldn't use XML for anything, hate that format 😉

                              hmm.. These XMl packages - are they PC only?

                              The nokogiri package has different packages for different platform. That could be a problem. I was hoping to find a cross platform solution. If REXML is cross platform I don't mind it's not too fast. But what troubles me with that is it's conflict with the Set class.

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                              • tbdT Offline
                                tbd
                                last edited by

                                @thomthom said:

                                These XML packages - are they PC only?

                                almost everything that needs speed in Ruby is implemented as an extension, so it is platform dependent. some gems are precompiled (e.g. for Windows), others are in source form and compiled on user machine to gather additional speed on optimizations (e.g. Mac)

                                http://github.com/jnunemaker/happymapper sounds interesting but again, has a lot of requirements

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Seeing how getting an XML parser working I think I will go for a custom format and make a simple parser that creates nested Hashes. In fact, I have to make my own Hash object as I want to traverse the Hash in the order the items where inserted.

                                  But I'd still like to be able to read XML data from SU ruby. There's some other projects I'd like to use it which involves reading existing XML based files.

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                                  • P Offline
                                    Pout
                                    last edited by

                                    and? did you manage to get something working that could parse xml?

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      No - I've still not found a good solution. 😕

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                                      • AdamBA Offline
                                        AdamB
                                        last edited by

                                        Thomthom, what do you actually want?

                                        If you don't need the full DOM, then these big (often slow) XML parsers may be a hammer to crack a nut.

                                        If you're just looking to use XML as a simple text mark-up of parameters etc, then writing something in Ruby that yanks out tag-value pairs would be trivial.

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          You got a point there. It's mostly simple XML files with tags and attributes.
                                          Could make a simple reader and writer. Make a custom class that holds values and attributes, read the XML file as a nested object.
                                          K.I.S.S.

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                                            todd burch
                                            last edited by

                                            I write an xml file in ruby, pass it to my webdialog, and use the browser to parse the xml and generate my html table dynamically.

                                            Works awesome.

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