If the world could vote!
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I dont suppose you know of a mirror? the sites down...
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@remus said:
I dont suppose you know of a mirror? the sites down...
I was there about 10 min. ago, its recording about 2000 votes/hour
perhaps its just heavy traffic. try again -
Never mind, seems to be working again. Must be the traffic, as you mentioned.
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The only choices given are McCain and Obama. What about the other guys on the ticket?
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Macedonia
At least for those that threatened to leave the counrty if Obama wins will have a destination.
Another new home could be Venezuela (that's an odd result)
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@unknownuser said:
The only choices given are McCain and Obama. What about the other guys on the ticket?
Perhaps the World doesn't care about the other guys
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@unknownuser said:
Unfortunately it is clear that either of these two will become president. Although the 3rd party candidates have a theoretical change, that wont happen. And since we are not giving the world a real chance to vote, we want to see which one of these two the world wants. If we do this again though, we will include the 3rd party candidates.
To quote the FAQ.
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That's amazing! (Time to expand my world view...never even heard of a couple of the countries watching us...?) Anyway, thanks a bunch for the link!
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Albania, Lesotho or Macedonia; sounds like a nice choice of venue for the disillusioned. Property prices are cheap too.
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I dunno, but it seems to me that this election is more of a referendum on Bush rather than the merits of either Obama and McCain. And quite frankly, I think the world vote is just a response to BO's obvious star charisma without much regard to what he really stands for or what this election is really all about. I beleive it's also true for most US voters as well.
but that's just me. . ..
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David. H wrote:
@unknownuser said:
without much regard to what he really stands for
and what would that be exactly?
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Here's another one:
Who would the World Elect - You vote!
Find out who the world voted for and vote yourself for the US Presidental Election
Who would the World Elect - You vote! (www.whowouldtheworldelect.com)
Ron Paul seems to lead although you can't vote for the f*cker on the front page LOL
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@solo said:
David. H wrote:
@unknownuser said:
without much regard to what he really stands for
and what would that be exactly?
Solo . . .without mixing up in an already rancurous discussion, I was merely referring to what was mentioned in the other post--which I hadn't read at the time I posted the previous. . .
@unknownuser said:
"Europe is thrilled by the prospect that whatever happens this week it will mean the end of George W. Bush (...)""
I am not an Obama supporter, but I wasn't making a slam on him in anyway either. He is afterall probably going to win and win big. But I think the world is suffering so much from Bush Fatigue and that is what has been carrying Obama for all these months. I believe his supporters and folks around the world are projecting their hopes and aspirations on him without much regard to What he himself is really going to do or what he really believes. maybe not. . .
Still friends?
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@unknownuser said:
But I think the world is suffering so much from Bush Fatigue and that is what has been carrying Obama for all these months. I believe his supporters and folks around the world are projecting their hopes and aspirations on him without much regard to What he himself is really going to do or what he really believes. maybe not. . .
He certainly does profit from the results of 8 years of Junior. There's no denying that, I think. And yes, there may be some projecting going on. Well ... quite a bit, probably.
That said, if I could vote, I probably could not bring myself to vote for McCain. (Though I think I'd have a tougher time to make up my mind than I do now.)Obama's presidency will be a rough ride, I think. Many problems to battle. From my (European) viewpoint that might not be so bad. I'd rather see the US president tend to domestic problems than exporting vast quantities of shock and awe. But you boys got though years ahead.
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Can you just imagine the tough expectations that Barack is going to have to deliver. I think he is trying to Tamp down some of these expectations, because he knows he won't be able to cure Cancer, end Iraq and Deliver the lollipops and rainbows that the world is expecting six months into his first term.
Carter rode in on a wave of Replican fatigue and as supermajority in congress as well. That didn't turn out so well.
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@unknownuser said:
Can you just imagine the tough expectations that Barack is going to have to deliver.
Yeah ... that's what I meant by 'tough ride'.
Still, would McCain be the better choice?Damn, David! You've gotten me all depressed!
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Dave, I am sorry if my question seemed confrontational, I was just asking as I assumed you were referring to the right wing name calling that Obama has unfairly been labled with.
I agree Bush's administration is part of the battle won for Obama, as well as McCain's bad VP choice, off message campaign, flipping on his core beliefs so as to conform to his party, living in the past when the future is on most concerned minds, lost in this horrible economic mess, running a negative campaign, knee jerk reactions,etc. However we are so quick to point at what he did wrong or how the political climate is against his party that we forget Obama beat Hillary, if indeed is was just to switch from Republicans to Democrats then the Clinton political machine should have been the perfect vehicle.
Obama has run a fantastic campaign, he won the primaries, kept to message, been polite, composed,controlled, intellegent and conferenced with the greatest minds in order to form his opinions.Is that not exactly what you would expect a president to be?
Everything else is policies and proposals that probably will not see daylight after months of senate and house battles. A good president is based on character, and there was a time I believed Mccain to be such a man. Until he sold his soul to be the President.
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no question. Obama has run a pretty flawless campaign. Even Biden's missteps havent hindered him at all. McCain;s campaign has reminded me a lot of Doles' 96 Campaign. Lackluster and uninspired. whatever the outcome tomorrow, we need to pull together as a country. I am so sick of this red state blue state nonsense. What started out as mere newsroom graphics has created an attitude that has allowed partisonship to divide this country in ways that I don't think will be reparable anytime soon.
One could argue that this all started with Watergate, and it;s probably a lot to do with it, but I think it started moreso with Bill Clinton. I was against the '98 impeachment of Clinton because it was really the start of all of this. A senate or Congressional reprimand would have been much more appropriate. Impeachment is the nuclear weapon of politics but it was This absolute hatredof Clinton by the R's that drove them all crazy. And the D's hate Bush just as much if not more. The country used to be much more civil. The days of Rockefeller, Everett Dirkson, Sam Rayburn, Ed Muskie. Moderates on both sides who could talk to eachother. They could work with an opposition President or at least could be civil to one another. Are those days gone?
It would seem so. The extremes of either party are driving the political discourse and us Middle of the Road guys can't find a place to land.
No matter who wins tomorrow, whether it be Ob or McC . .. when he reaches across the aisle, he is going to get his arm chewed off.NOw are you depressed? I am.
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@unknownuser said:
No matter who wins tomorrow, whether it be Ob or McC . .. when he reaches across the aisle, he is going to get his arm chewed off.
NOw are you depressed?
Yes, thank you ever so much.
Well ... I might be naive, but I was kinda hoping Obama could make the two sides meet. He does with regards to the political factions in my family. That's a start, isn't it?
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