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    • B Offline
      bellwells
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      @unknownuser said:

      @baker518 said:

      Does it not bother anyone but me that before coming to the US Senate, Obama had never held a public office outside of his neighborhood?

      How is this relevant now?

      It's every bit as relevant as the media's claptrapping over Palin's experience. In fact, it's MORE relevant since he's running for president.

      Ron

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        Stinkie
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        @bellwells said:

        It's every bit as relevant as the media's claptrapping over Palin's experience. In fact, it's MORE relevant since he's running for president.

        "Does it not bother anyone but me that before coming to the US Senate, Obama had never held a public office outside of his neighborhood?"

        Need I explain this any further? I'm not feeling like running in rhetorical circles right now.

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          bellwells
          last edited by

          @unknownuser said:

          @bellwells said:

          It's every bit as relevant as the media's claptrapping over Palin's experience. In fact, it's MORE relevant since he's running for president.

          "Does it not bother anyone but me that before coming to the US Senate, Obama had never held a public office outside of his neighborhood?"

          Need I explain this any further? I'm not feeling like running in rhetorical circles right now.

          Ah ha, the key word being before. I overlooked that. EDIT: However, the fact remains that the "experience" thing is not being equally applied here.

          Ron

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            david.
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            Four more reasons NOT to vote for Obama:

            Senator Obama's Four Tax Increases for People Earning Under $250K

            And, another:

            Throw Out the Constitution for Reparative Economics (eg, Reparations by Redistribution)

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              pbacot
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              David,

              Obviously the person who put together the second video wasn't able to follow the discussion and/or twisted the words intentionally.

              Peter

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                watkins
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                Dear David,

                So, you decide which way to vote on how much money you get to keep! Whatever happened to the Kennedy ideal, " Ask not what your country can do for you....". But then, what can one expect from a country that voted Bush in TWICE!!

                Sorry, but as a non-American I get nightmares when I think of a McCain/Palin administration. Is money all that matters to you, or do you really believe that McCain/Palin are the best candidates?

                Kind regards,
                Bob

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                  watkins
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                  Whatever it takes to get in power!

                  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

                  Of course he is going to cut taxes! He said so, didn't he?

                  Sorry if this has been posted before.

                  Regards,
                  Bob

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                    pbacot
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                    @tomsdesk said:

                    "...down and down we go..."

                    Jimi Hendrix?

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                      david_h
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                      I Think just for fun, I will throw a little gas on this fire and see what happens. . .

                      this is from Chas. Krauthammer's column posted in yesterday's Washington Post:

                      ***%(#BF0040)[The case for McCain is straightforward. The financial crisis has made us forget, or just blindly deny, how dangerous the world out there is. We have a generations-long struggle with Islamic jihadism. An apocalyptic soon-to-be-nuclear Iran. A nuclear-armed Pakistan in danger of fragmentation. A rising Russia pushing the limits of revanchism. Plus the sure-to-come Falklands-like surprise popping out of nowhere.

                      Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.? A man who's been cramming on these issues for the past year, who's never had to make an executive decision affecting so much as a city, let alone the world? A foreign policy novice instinctively inclined to the flabbiest, most vaporous multilateralism (e.g., the Berlin Wall came down because of "a world that stands as one"), and who refers to the most deliberate act of war since Pearl Harbor as "the tragedy of 9/11," a term more appropriate for a bus accident?

                      Or do you want a man who is the most prepared, most knowledgeable, most serious foreign policy thinker in the United States Senate? A man who not only has the best instincts but has the honor and the courage to, yes, put country first, as when he carried the lonely fight for the surge that turned Iraq from catastrophic defeat into achievable strategic victory?

                      There's just no comparison. Obama's own running mate warned this week that Obama's youth and inexperience will invite a crisis -- indeed a crisis "generated" precisely to test him. Can you be serious about national security and vote on Nov. 4 to invite that test?

                      And how will he pass it? Well, how has he fared on the only two significant foreign policy tests he has faced since he's been in the Senate? The first was the surge. Obama failed spectacularly. He not only opposed it. He tried to denigrate it, stop it and, finally, deny its success.

                      The second test was Georgia, to which Obama responded instinctively with evenhanded moral equivalence, urging restraint on both sides. McCain did not have to consult his advisers to instantly identify the aggressor.]***

                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                        tomsdesk
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                        @pbacot said:

                        @tomsdesk said:

                        "...down and down we go..."

                        Jimi Hendrix?

                        Peggy Lee: That Old black Magic

                        http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                        2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                          bellwells
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                          @david. said:

                          Four more reasons NOT to vote for Obama:

                          Senator Obama's Four Tax Increases for People Earning Under $250K

                          And, another:

                          Throw Out the Constitution for Reparative Economics (eg, Reparations by Redistribution)

                          The first link is very insightful. I never thought about the possibility of the Bush tax cuts expiring resulting in a de facto a tax increase. Not to mention Obama's claim he will raise capital gains tax rate from 15% to as much as 28%.

                          @Bob, we Americans are a capitalistic and entrepreneurial lot and not at all fond of government taking our money so they can "spread the wealth". We take great care of all our citizens. The poor (and the illegal aliens) have better health care plan than I do, for example.

                          Ron

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                            glennwarner
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                            Obama's motto: " Ask not what your country can do for you....demand it."

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                              bellwells
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                              @glennwarner said:

                              Obama's motto: " Ask not what your country can do for you....demand it."

                              LOL. Good one for your first post!!

                              Ron

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                                tomsdesk
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                ...Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.?...

                                Not this guy for sure:

                                http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                                2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                                  solo
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                                  McCain "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"

                                  Just what we need.

                                  http://www.solos-art.com

                                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    david_h
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                                    Someone just sent this to me. . ..

                                    %(#FF0040)[Subject: redistribution of wealth- a practical application

                                    Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.

                                    Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed--just imagine the coincidence.

                                    When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

                                    I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

                                    At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

                                    I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.]

                                    If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                                      solo
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                                      http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/27/mccain-says-unscripted-obama-wants-to-redistribute-wealth/

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        bellwells
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                                        @tomsdesk said:

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        ...Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.?...

                                        Not this guy for sure:

                                        And sure as hell not this guy:Obama-Kennedy.jpg

                                        Ron

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                                          bellwells
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Someone just sent this to me. . ..

                                          %(#FF0040)[Subject: redistribution of wealth- a practical application

                                          ...At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

                                          I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.]

                                          Of course most of those voting for Obama will be on the receiving end of this redistribution. I can't even believe we're having a conversation regarding whether we should adopt socialism. Re-brand and redefine it how you will with wonderful sounding terms like "solidarity" or "social consciousness", it's still socialism.

                                          Ron

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                                            tomsdesk
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                                            🤣

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