Sailing (Bireme or Trireme)

Gaieus

A biremis has tworows of oars (like you say bilingual or bisexsual etc). A triremis has threerows of oars (like you say tripod or triangle etc.)

Actually the Romans did not really used biremes - or if they did, it was "borrowed" from the coastal pirates of "Liburnia" (Nowadays Dalmatia - Mateo is most probably one of the decendents ) and it was therefore called "liburna". The Romans cleaned up the Adriatic from them at around the beginning of the 2nd century BC (as far as I remember) and the ship was mainly used in coastal areas with many small islands (it can be maneuvered very easily there). The "standard" warship was the quinqueremis (5 rows of oars).

Warships however never had that small front mast/sail. I saw some 3Ds models scattered here and there and they have exactly the same mistake.

BUT - Pete, the model is very cool and I really love the renders! And I hope that you don't take this above as "lessoning"

solo

Thanks Csaba,

@unknownuser said:

The Romans cleaned up the Adriatic from them at around the beginning of the 2nd century BC (as far as I remember)

How old are you again?

Strange thing that front mast, I saw many with and many without, was not sure which was which, so decided to include it as it looks better with than without, so this is the pimped out (place name of ship) version.

Gaieus

@unknownuser said:

How old are you again?

2243 then...

Only commercial ships had it because they had no rowers - like in this vieo (Lucentum - Alicante, Spain). It would have been very uncomfortable for warships since they always pulled down the mast and sails before battles and only used the oars (so manyglitchy movies )

solo

The images I was looking at was more like the Trireme 'Olympus'

Recreation photo.

pbacot

There's always more to this forum than just modeling. Thanks guy. Lens glare? What kind of lens did they use back then?

And that's a really hot picture. Especially for a couple hours!

Oh and if you like this sort of stuff, try out some Polynesian craft. The painter Herb Kane has done extensive research and illustration to draw from. Your picture brings his work to mind.

Gaieus

Yeah, but I bet it has a built in motor as well

Never mind my being picky, Pete, you know it's just (kind of) my profession (like with Eduardo and his Doric temple)

BTW if I hadn't found SU back about 2 or 2.5 ys ago, I would already be a PhD in ancient history (darn - I would only need to finish my thesis that is kind of related to two previous theses I have already written anyway)

david_h

where's the seadoo?

Frederik

Really impressive..!!
That render is awesome..!!

Puma

@solo said:

Yay, let's row 52783 km in a boat wich weights 32154132 kg...

ckosio

what tools did you used to create this?/ sorry im newbie in sketchup..

remus

I think the main ones were subdivide and smooth and sketchyffd, both of which are plugins.

you can get subd and smooth from here ($22): http://www.smustard.com/script/SubdivideAndSmooth

and sketchyFFD (free): http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=6029&hilit=+Plugin

Apart form that im guessing it was mostly standard SU tools.

pilou

Texture seems stones or bricks does that float?
Edited : render image is disapeared so my comment is not more available
Cool modeling / time elapsed

Roger

Solo, the whole thing about the number of rows of oars gets tricky. I think there are even references in literature to quinqueremes (SP) which would indicate five rows of oars. However, no wrecks have been found and no drawings have been found. Also no one has come up with a practical arrangement of rowers to make this possible. With five layers of oars, the guys on top would have had oars the size of trees. And oars have to be balanced so the length would have been incredible.

Maybe with carbon fiber oars we could still get there.

Gaieus

Yup, true, many scholars think that (maybe already) quinqueremes but definitely more rows of oars (they might go up to more than 20 ) actually meant the number of men rowing in one section. Maybe two rows; the lower with two men and the upper with three (for handling the longer oar).

Anyway, the model is fine and that's the point here