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    • K Offline
      kwistenbiebel
      last edited by

      Good catch Remus.
      Indeed, v. ONE is finally out and I must say that the Sketchup plugin has a lot of improvements concerning the workflow.

      I did quite some nagging on their forum to get some of these little things implemented (a render button, exact SU viewport match, animation support, a default place for the Fry toolbar in the SU GUI, component instances instead of groups,etc..).

      Fry is now very well suited for use in a Sketchup combo.
      Especially the 64 bit version rocks.

      The biggest difference with Maxwell is the fact that it doesn't need editing in a seperate 'Studio'.All happens smoothly within the Sketchup interface.

      The multilight feature (called 'layer blending') is also a little more advanced in my opinion as it is possible to seperate the direct sun from the sky (=you can put the sun on a separate layer and adjust its strenght on the fly).

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      • soloS Offline
        solo
        last edited by

        Maxwell has a fast setup and well slow render, how is the setup with fry?
        The material and lighting setup?

        (maybe I should get the demo)

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        • K Offline
          kwistenbiebel
          last edited by

          Personally I would go for Fry.
          As a user you get to be closer to the developers than you are when buying Maxwell.
          You can actually get things done and they really listen do your needs (as long as you remain polite 😄 ).

          When comparing quality, that is difficult to answer.
          I think they are similar and I can't really decide which is better.
          I personally love the workflow more in Fry, definitely when seeing the latest improvements they did on the SU plugin.

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          • StinkieS Offline
            Stinkie
            last edited by

            Keep in mind that Maxwell's Studio provides you with a good way to add, say, high poly 3D trees to your scene.

            I gotta try Fry, though. 💚

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            • K Offline
              kwistenbiebel
              last edited by

              Fry is fast at setup, slow at rendering( unbiased...you know).
              Some people say it renders faster than Maxwell, but I haven't done a comparative test.

              When you already have Maxwell I would stick to it, but when you have to make a new purchase I would consider Fry..
              I don't know if the demo of version 1 is already up for download but yes, trying the demo is definitely the best way to make your choice.

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              • K Offline
                kwistenbiebel
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                Keep in mind that Maxwell's Studio provides you with a good way to add, say, high poly 3D trees to your scene.

                Fry does proxy/instancing from within Sketchup, which works similar to the 'dummy' approach of Skindigo.
                It allows you to place low poly 'dummy' trees in your scene, which will be automatically replaced by the high poly 3D trees when rendering...

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                • R Offline
                  remus
                  last edited by

                  Is there a studio in for fry as well? i got the impression form your first post that there as...

                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                  • K Offline
                    kwistenbiebel
                    last edited by

                    A handy feature from within the material editor is the ability to alter the bitmap textures you assigned to the materials.
                    It has a lot of possibilities to change the appearance of the textures. (No need to get back to Photoshop to change things).

                    http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/bitmapeditor.jpg

                    Very easy to make a bump map for instance out of the colored texture by desaturating, increasing contrast, clip whites or blacks etc...
                    It also lets you add procedural noise, color gradients etc...

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                    • K Offline
                      kwistenbiebel
                      last edited by

                      To clarify the workflow from within Sketchup I will post some screen caps.

                      This is the Fry toolbar within Sketchup:

                      http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/frytoolbar.jpg

                      When clicking the icons of that toolbar, following windows will pop up according to which icon you click:

                      http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/frycamera.jpg

                      http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/fryenvironmentsettings.jpg

                      http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/fryrendersettings.jpg

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                      • K Offline
                        kwistenbiebel
                        last edited by

                        The material editor:

                        How it works:
                        While having selected the Sketchup material (in the SU material browser), push the 'bucket' icon on the Fry toolbar.
                        The 'Fry material editing' window will pop and will make you setup the properties of the material:

                        http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/mateditor-b.jpg

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                        • K Offline
                          kwistenbiebel
                          last edited by

                          Not in the sense of the Studio in Maxwell.
                          But it has its own GUI (a 'mini' Studio if you like) that is launched when you push 'render' in Sketchup.
                          It lets you adjust some things if needed (e.g view point, camera settings, material tweaks),but all the mat editing and render settings are actually already done within SU...

                          An extended manual will be uploaded this week (according to the developers) on the Fry website.

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                            remus
                            last edited by

                            Cheers for the little walkthrough kwist, im tempted to give it a go now, if only i could find some time!

                            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                              kwistenbiebel
                              last edited by

                              I just tested the new animation feature and I must admit it is a bit buggy on larger sketchup files.
                              It seems to have trouble to save a dump file in the temp folder (crashes SU). Hopefully it will be sorted out soon.

                              Rendering animation seems to be quite fast though.
                              Here's a small tryout which rendered 1 minute per frame, which is actually very speedy.
                              Just a displaced box on a surface:

                              [flash=480,360:2autdnzb]http://www.youtube.com/v/J1MfQNjGSOw&hl=en&fs=1&ap=%2526fmt%3D18[/flash:2autdnzb]

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                                Fletch
                                last edited by

                                Thanks for sharing this great review, Kwist, good work! 👍

                                Fletch
                                Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                • I Offline
                                  ilay7k
                                  last edited by

                                  strange, why not to try demo? 😄
                                  http://fryrender.com

                                  anyway indigo/kerky2008/and little bit luxrender and maxwell are best
                                  holywar joke 💚

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                                    solo
                                    last edited by

                                    Chris, I installed Fry and unzipped the SU6 plugings and installed them into the correct folders. I am usng U6 pro and yet I do not see any icons or reference to them in plugins drop down menu.
                                    I do have the .fry export facility which opens the Fry consol.

                                    http://www.solos-art.com

                                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    • K Offline
                                      kwistenbiebel
                                      last edited by

                                      That's strange. Are you sure you have version 1 ?

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                                      • soloS Offline
                                        solo
                                        last edited by

                                        The latest one off the website (demo)

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

                                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        • I Offline
                                          ilay7k
                                          last edited by

                                          Try to activate toolbar from plug-ins menu, fry-menu >> show/hide fry toolbar 😉

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                                          • soloS Offline
                                            solo
                                            last edited by

                                            I do not have the fry-menu option in the plugins drop down menu.

                                            http://www.solos-art.com

                                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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