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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      This is a voluntary thing we all do there for the sake of the kids (and I have to take my days off here in the office).

      On the other hand, I have to tell that everybody enjoys the whole week so much that we are glad to do this for free.
      ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Gai...

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      • tinanneT Offline
        tinanne
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        Wow, this is so cool! What an exciting project. The kids look like they are having a great time!

        Here in the USA we have Renaissance Fairs. Where people will re-enact, dress, and prepare food based on that time period. There is a place in Utah that has a Shakespeare Festival, that is fun too ๐Ÿ˜„

        Edit: I'm sorry about your friend.

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        • W Offline
          watkins
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          Dear Gaieus,

          Are you using traditional materials and methods in the restoration, such as lime-based mortars and plasterwork?

          Regards,
          Bob

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          • Mike LuceyM Offline
            Mike Lucey
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            Csaba, I think you need to change something! You state,
            'camp for about 150-200 kids (from the age of about 5 up to 20)'
            this should read,
            camp for about 150-200 kids (from the age of about 5 up to 50, at least!) ๐Ÿ˜„

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              Bob,

              They use original bricks they "gathered" in the vicinity for sure. For mortar and plastering we still often use lime based materials so I guess that is not a problem. Furthermore, the building authority in case of every protected historic monument in Hungary is not the local municipality but the Heritage Protection Authority (or how to translate that) which deals with every particular case individually and defines what materials and techniques can be used. I personally haven't been involved with the project yet (I saw the building from inside last year however) so don't know about the details but I believe they are doing a good job.


              James,

              Yes, it seems that we are aging too fast... ๐Ÿ˜’


              Mike - well, yes, kids of all ages in reality. But why just 50? ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Gai...

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              • W Offline
                watkins
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                Dear Gaieus,

                My apologies for not acknowledging your reply before now, but I have only just seen this.

                I'm glad to hear that they are doing a good job and using traditional building materials. Old stone structures need to breath, and lime mortars and plasters allow this to happen. The UK has a problem with building restoration in that there is now a skills shortage. I hope that that is not the case in your country.

                Kind regards,
                Bob

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
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                  Hi Bob,

                  I could finally have a better look at the ongoing reconstruction and have to tell you that it will probably be a very nice job. They have collected 18th century bricks from all around the building and reinforcing the walls and adding what is missing of those bricks.

                  Also, the whole wall structure is a kind of mixture of brick, stone and adobe. The stone is probably from the Roman building found right below this one (beautiful fragments of frescos as well) so it will be a bit more difficult than seemed at first.

                  Unfortunately I couldn't take part at the excavation because I broke my arm the first day and had to go to hospital for an operation (I have a couple of iron pieces in my wrist at the moment). So much about going to the beach and swim this summer ๐Ÿ˜„

                  We took a couple of pics and made some measurements so I hope I can post some here later.

                  Gai...

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    Well, another year has passed and I'm preparing to leave for this year's camp next week. Last year we had great fun with the kids introducing them to SU and quite many of them enjoyed building various kinds of Roman forts and watchtowers (well, maybe there could've been some final tweaks made but you know how it is...)

                    As last year I broke my arm (left wrist) right at the beginning of the camp, my friend, "Kephalos" was the one who in fact worked the most with the kids.
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                    Me with broken arm.
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                    This year I hope to be more cautious and take my part of the job as well as him. He has made a nice model of a Roman, military camp however which has been turned into a walkabout application (like a FPS Game) the kids can explore in 3D. Different "tasks" will be hidden in the fort for them.

                    Some images from last year

                    Gai...

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
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                      So I have arrived. One of the tasks for the kids is to navigate ("walk") to the Principiaof the fort and find Gaieus.


                      Gaieus.jpg

                      Gai...

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                      • Alan FraserA Offline
                        Alan Fraser
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                        ๐Ÿ˜‰


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                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
                          Mike Lucey
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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
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                            Well, Alan, that was obviously not necessary to write out at those times. However the kids soon spotted it out as "anachronistic" ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Gai...

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
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                              Dear Gaieus,

                              I just have spent a very refreshing while to watch all about your reenactment camp.
                              The I. Lugio hastรกnc fesztivรกl offers to the child wonderful activities in peace, joy and dream.
                              I'm sure many of them will still think of you in years.
                              ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘
                              simon

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                              • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                honoluludesktop
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                                Gaieus, Pardon my ignorance of European history, but how does a Hungarian come to reenact a Roman? I thought all those fellows were Italians?

                                My part of the world is a melting pot to the extent that I know of no native pure bloods as of the last three generations, and as I recall 1/20 may be enough to qualify as one. My own ethnicity is an oriental mix, but I am 99% Western cultruarated (if there is such a word):-) 4-5 nights a week I dress in a white kimono (like) outfit, and reenact a martial arts of my roots ๐Ÿ™‚ Have a nice camp, and enjoy.

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                                • Alan FraserA Offline
                                  Alan Fraser
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                                  Hdt, there are Roman re-enactments throughout the whole of Europe, including the UK. Those guys got around. They weren't all Roman, by any means. We have evidence here in Britain of Hadrian's Wall, Londinium, Deva (Chester) being manned by troops from all over the Empire...including present-day Hungary, Spain, North Africa and various parts of the Middle East. Many of them married into the local population and stayed on after the collapse of the Empire. Everywhere's a melting-pot to some extent.
                                  Here's a partly reconstructed Roman fort in N.E. UK. Re-enactments often take place in this kind of setting.

                                  http://www.picturesofgateshead.co.uk/south_shields/02082202aw.jpg

                                  ...and a British re-enactment society, The Ermine Street Guard.

                                  http://www.apx.de/nederlands/uwbezoek/evenementen/thuenker_park_cd6_74_800.jpg

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                                  • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                    honoluludesktop
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                                    The English were the first westerners to discover the "Sandwich Isles", but by no stretch of historic process are we exposed to Roman culture, however once a year there are those that joust, along side the Eastern horse back archers.

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
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                                      Well, you can also put it this way. who is a Roman - say in the 2nd century BC? Hardly anyone outside the city of Roma and all the "rest" of the population of Italy (Greeks, Etruscans, Umbrians whatnot) are only "allies" (socii).

                                      2-3 centuries later yes, all the population of Italy is considered "Roman" and there are the provinces (like Britannia where Alan is from or Pannonia where I am from). The population (and the military unit garrisoning where these things happen yearly) got the Roman citizenship from Septimius Severus who actually became the emperor because as the Governor of Pannonia (Superior), he was the closest to Rome after Commodus died (you know, that crazy guy from the movie "Gladiator"). Finally, his son granted Roman citizenship to (almost) all free inhabitants of the Empire.

                                      From that time on, the military unit was called Cohors VII Breucorum Civium Romanorum Equitata (i.e. Roman Citizens). BTW several units recruited from this Celtic tribe garrisoned in Britannia, as well.

                                      This portrait of Marcus Aurelius was also found here:

                                      http://www.vendegvaro.hu/dl/media/group_26/group_O13221/item_40803.jpg

                                      BTW my home town is listed among the UNESCO World Heritage because of our Late Roman (Early Christian) cemetery here: http://www.h2g2.hu/peregrinus/gb/3.html (watch the whole website though, there are incredible 3D reconstructions especially in the Spanish sites)

                                      So who is an American? Who holds a US passport. The same with Rome.

                                      Ah, and I have finally uploaded a couple of images of the first day of the re-enactment days (including the opening ceremony) to Picasa: http://picasaweb.google.hu/csaba.pozsarko/Lugio2009#

                                      But we have Celts here, too. Don't ask me why if we are not on the British Isles. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                      They have just killed some Romans there.
                                      And we also got some demonstration about the Eastern mounted archers (more exactly she is a girl here - notice that she is NOT using a saddle which was of course not true while in a battle but kids learnt to ride without a saddle first according to our Medieval chronicles)

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                                      So basically it's a great fun to be there every year but also the kids learn a lot there.

                                      Gai...

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                                      • C Offline
                                        cornel
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                                        ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Until today, Roman Empire wasnโ€™t conquered...!
                                        It is detailed presented in Revelation book, especially in chapter 17.

                                        ๐ŸŽ‰ Cornel

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                                        • Alan FraserA Offline
                                          Alan Fraser
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                                          Thank you for the historical insight, Cornel. I'm sure the inhabitants of Constantinople will be greatly relieved. ๐Ÿ˜’

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