Arcgis9
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ArcGIS is made by ESRI, it's the leading GIS product, kind of the industry standard. I've been working with ArcGIS and SU for a while now and have had some success. There's a nice add-on for SU that can aid in passing data back and forth.
http://sketchup.google.com/download/plugins.html#arcgis
This is a good starting point. What are you hoping to accomplish?
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Ehaflett , thank you,thank you, thank you!
I'll have to digest some of this. This is exactly what we need it for. We are looking at a about 16 city blocks of planning that we will be involeved in to do exactly this. I'm sure I will have question later.BTW, how is this better or different than what google and microsoft are doing.
I also heard from a co-worker that it is possible to have 3d information including building and terrain from satellite informationAgain, thanks
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You're welcome. Do you plan on modeling the entire 16 blocks in 3D? Sounds like a fun project.
I've worked a little with putting 3D buildings from SU into ArcGIS with mixed results. My conclusion was that it's probably more seamless to do all the 3D stuff in SU but the plug-in should be a great way to get you started with 2D parcel data, streets, building footprints and whatever thematic data you may have or need. Starting out with 2D data from
As for comparing ArcGIS to Google Earth/Maps and Microsoft Virtual Earth; I see GE and VE as data viewers for the most part since that's what most people do with it, it's possible to create and edit data with them but the average user isn't doing much of this. ArcGIS is a fully functional GIS suite that can create, edit, display spatial data as well as do complicated spatial analysis and generate some really nice maps. That's in a nutshell of course.
I'm glad to help out any way I can so please come back at me if you've got more questions. Nice to see someone else on this forum using GIS!
MODS- you could move this thread to the GIS forum if you like.
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My township also uses ArcGIS to organise spatial data. Now I'm also considering to dig myself into this and start creating 3D data in SU for GIS. I also have a question; as for now, the ArcGIS viewer (?) we are using here only displays 2D data (layers and such). Can it "go" 3D as well? I mean it's OK that I model in SU and I know of that plugin but how is the way we can exploit the 3D data and "work" in 3D in ArcGIS?
Anyway, there used to be a quite vivid GIS forum at the old Forums that is gone now. Here we also have a GIS subforum though it seems that it's only you, Eric, who once in a while post there..
So any chance to "revive" it?
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I have the same question as Gaieus, does GIS contain it 3d information importable to sketchup? Is this infact the best (most cost effective) method for getting existing info into su for 3d manipulation? Having street,sidewalk,3d countour and building footprint and heights would be ideal (maybe existing trees too).
Thanks for the link Gaieus.
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Trying to install the lastest version of GIS v9.2 and nothing is showing up on the menu.
How do I get the sketchup plugin to show up on the menu?
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I was told by someone in the office that inorder to get this to work we must purchase arcscene. Is this true and what is arcscene? My guess is that it's probably a pathing issue
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Hey guys, sorry I haven't replied, been on VACATION!
Just to clear a couple things up:
ArcView - strictly 2D, used for managing/creating/editing/analyzing spatial data and making maps. It can do 3D analysis (viewsheds, hillshades, slopes, etc.). It's functionality can be extended with 'extensions' but still just 2D display.
ArcScene - can show 2D and 3D data, used mostly for fly-through animation and stuff like that, the real analysis goes on in ArcView (depending on your license level and extensions).
ArcGlobe - Similar to ArcScene but more like Google Earth in that it includes a globe and other data. I still don't know what the real differences are between this and Scene other than the animation export functions.
ArcGIS Explorer - (it's FREE!) ESRI's version of Google Earth/Virtual Earth except it plays very nicely with ESRI's favorite data formats. There's a link below, I use it as much as the others since it will often have more up-to-date imagery.
http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/explorer/index.html
As for using these packages with SU data I've had mixed results. The best I've been able to pull off is to save my SU models down to SU v5 and use them as symbols for a point shapefile. For examples, I have a point shapefile that has centerpoints for all the buildings along my street, I then go into each point and symbolize it using the SU model I made for it (this is similar to how you do trees as well). It's pretty time-consuming and not really accurate since ArcScene/Globe displays the model based on it's axes, not geographically referenced points so each one has to be rotated indivitually. They also don't come in at the right size so that has to be tweaked as well. See my other posts in this subforum for some graphics and more details on the workflow.
According to ESRI there is also the Multipatch which is a data format that supposedly plays nicely with SU and other 3D modelers. I haven't had much luck with it yet but I plan on digging into that soon. I'll certainly post my findings here, glad to see interest. You can also use attributes in your GIS data to use to extrude your shapes but I have'nt tried this (yet).
As far as going the other way goes, it's pretty nice. You can use ArcGIS to make all your spatial layers (parcels, contours, any thematic data really) and export them to SU, then add your models to it from there. This would ensure that your model is spatially correct, at least as far as XY goes.
Gai, I share your sentiments on reviving this forum, I do what I can you know.
lapx, let me know if you're still having trouble getting the tool to show up in ArcGIS and I'll try to help. -
As far as I know ArcScene comes with the ArcView license level which is the lowest/cheapest level.
ArcGlobe comes with the 3D Analyst Extension.
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Thanks, Eric, for the heads up!
I'll also try to dig myself into this with my colleagues who use our GIS system here and see what I can come up with.
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