Another house I'm using to learn Sketchup
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Hi all. Here's another house from houseplans.com that I have been using to learn. One thing I have found out, you can't use double walls with their outside dimensions. I wound up with a tiny bathroom. haha. Should I not use double walls?
Here's the link to the plans. http://houseplans.com/plan_details.asp?id=22087
I drew everything except the door going to the carport, the stove, refrigerator, dishwasher, and bar stools. I got those from the warehouse. That rounded bar and counter are giving me fits. I also made up the car ramp. In the picture, I think it goes in the back but its not on the floor plan and I liked having it in the front.
How much power do you need to keep Sketchup from freezing? It's happening to me more and more as I get more details put in. I finally set the auto backup to 1 minute.Next I'm going to play in the sandbox.
Thanks for viewing,
NomiFront http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Gallery/nomicrowave/117-452/House-117-452-front.jpg
Inside http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Gallery/nomicrowave/117-452/House-117-452-great-room-an.jpg
Left front http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Gallery/nomicrowave/117-452/House-117-452-left-front.jpg
Right front http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Gallery/nomicrowave/117-452/House-117-452-right-front.jpg -
Look up Aidan Chopra on youtube, he has some amazing tutorial videos that you can watch through. http://youtube.com/user/aidanchopra
Also, although im a huge newb at SU myself, i can suggest that you open the eraser tool, and while holding the ctrl button click the lines on those rounded corners. That will smooth the line into the bend.
And I think the walls should be .... 4 3/4" thick to account for a single 2x4 and two sheets of drywall. That should help with those, and a trick i learned in highschool architecture is to create the floor shape of the room first, then move everything into place to account for walls. While not needed in SU, it might help you to get a feel for where things need to be placed maybe? It helped me anyways.
But ive also found that the plans on that site sometimes arent very accurate
.Anyone care to pick up where I left off or perhaps (as is often the case) suggest a much easier method that i managed to forget or simply dont know about?
And the freezing just depends on the autosave like you mentioned already, any time it auto saves it will pause for a second, though i have yet to use SU on a pc that didnt pause during autosave.
Make sure to not use any large textures, especially not BMP images (i learned that the hard way) and make sure to intersect the model if things come through each other, and delete all the geometry inside as well as outside if its not needed.
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Thank you Masta. That worked perfectly on the rounded corners.
Oh, yeah, I watched all of Aidan Chopra's videos and saved them to my favorites. They are very easy to learn from. Now, my memory of everything he teaches is not so good. Like somebody's signature I saw, I have a photographic memory, I just can't get it developed. (Not an exact quote, it's as close as I can remember). LOL
Thanks for the info on wall thickness. I didn't think to add the drywall. If the plan said 2 x 4 walls, I just used 4". This is the first house I did. I used the overall dimensions in the plan for my base, then built walls within those dimensions. That didn't work. So, on the next one, I made a base bigger than I could possibly need and cut it down after I had all my rooms in. That worked much better.
I've worked a little more on the kitchen.
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Gallery/nomicrowave/117-452/House-117-452-kitchen.jpg -
Thank you, I'm going to save the drawing.
I don't know why we're getting the 404. They are still on the server.
Going to try another link and see if it works. It goes to the whole gallery for this house.
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Gallery/nomicrowave/117-452 -
Nomicrowave, you might want to try putting some items such as cabinets, doors, windows, furniture, etc. that you can turn off while working on other parts of the model. That might help you with SU freezing.
Now that you have modeled two houses from a plan service, are you going to try designing your own. Or maybe altering one of those? That's where the real fun is.
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I could not see enough of your model to understand what you mean by double walls. Dimensions and the drawings shown in floor plan books and services are not always very accurate, but there are visual clues there that will tell you how large things are.
The plan shows a standard bathtub, which is 60" x 30".
In a standard house such as that, the toilet is usually in an area 36" wide clear (between the tub and lavatory).
Front doors are usually 36" wide.
A standard kitchen sink base is 36" wide.
Interior walls usually framed with 2x4's which are actually 3 1/2" wide. Gypsum board is going to be either 1/2" or 5/8". But it is common to draw the walls nominal 4"
Usually the wall behind the toilet (and in that plan, behind the washer and dryer) is 6" to accomodate the plumbing.
Depending on where you live, exterior walls are going to be framed with either 2x4 or 2x6 (which are 5 1/2" wide). If you are using 4" walls with wood siding, the total thickness will be about 7 1/2".
If have brick veneer on the outside, then the total wall thickness will be approx. 12". -
Why isn't there a program that you can load into your browser than recalculates inches to metric. Metric is a much more easier system, its actually based on a decent system. I know both inches and metric. But why inches and the lot are still beeing used while everything in the world is beeing transformed to use the same extenstions inches and feet and such still are here, while metric is the standard throughout a lot of the fields throughout the world. It can be compared to the dollar. Dying and fast and still it is beeing used instead of a much more stable currency such as the euro.
And a 200 mm wall is quite reasonable for a wooden wall isnt it?
I mean normally you would go by 300 mm for a constructive wall and 100 for an inner wall. So 200 mm for a wooden outer wall doesnt sound very strange to me. -
@daniel said:
Nomicrowave, you might want to try putting some items such as cabinets, doors, windows, furniture, etc. that you can turn off while working on other parts of the model. That might help you with SU freezing.
Now that you have modeled two houses from a plan service, are you going to try designing your own. Or maybe altering one of those? That's where the real fun is.
I went through the entire house and made levels for each area like the roof, outside walls, inside walls, etc. so they could be turned off. I also intersected everything and created components out of things like the kitchen bar and the porch roof support beams. Thanks for pointing that out.
I'm not brave enough yet to design my own. I need to learn the sandbox portion of Sketchup and I have also requested a download from SU Podium that I'll have to learn. I know absolutely nothing about construction and design but I can follow good directions.
Nomi
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@unknownuser said:
Where do they live in houses with 7 1/2" thick external finished walls?
James, the drawing you posted is approx. 7 1/2":
5/8" gypsum board (although here 1/2" is common for residential walls)
5 1/2" framing (most houses here in East Tennessee are built with 2x4)
3/4" sheathing (this is probably overkill; 1/2" or 5/8" would work)
1" wood siding (and this is probably generous; depends on kind of siding) -
To Robmoors:
You know Google will do those conversions for you?
eg. type " 4ft 2inches in mm " into google
works for most standard units of weight, volume, length etc....
eg "36kg in pounds" etc...A.
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I know but I want direct recalc in the window I have open, I know both units and understand them no problem however it's just annoying
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