You like?
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I LIKE!
...you too Stu
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Stu,
I just chatted with Andrew Dale, the guy who made the trees in my original post and guess what?
Yup, he also made the ones for Ozbreed and is commissioned to make more in the near future.
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I likey! I downloaded them, but haven't tried them out yet. Thanks for letting us know about that great resource
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I like.
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Solo - If you are chatting with Andrew again be sure to suggest that a collection of less tropical species (such as pines, spruce, aspen, cherry, oak, poplar, maples etc) would be popular.
Your render is sweet.
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Thanks Ross.
We discussed that this morning (morning for me at least in the US, as he resides in Oz) and decided that as soon as his current obligations are completed to look at Northern hemisphere vegetation including most of your suggested species.
I would like to even go one step further and possibly put collections together according to growth zones and continents.
I could only imagine how beneficial a collection based on ones zone could be at these resolutions and detail.I will keep you informed as things progress.
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Thanks Fredrick.
I have an island scene with the whole collection on them that I wanted to render in Echo, but I have not had the time to learn how to use it correctly yet. (my brain cannot handle another GUI it seems)
I will get to it (the learning) as soon as I complete a Wall-E modeling job thats overdue.
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Solo,
Do you think these are better than the Ambient Light trees?
Scott
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@solo said:
Thanks Ross.
We discussed that this morning (morning for me at least in the US, as he resides in Oz) and decided that as soon as his current obligations are completed to look at Northern hemisphere vegetation including most of your suggested species.
I would like to even go one step further and possibly put collections together according to growth zones and continents.
I could only imagine how beneficial a collection based on ones zone could be at these resolutions and detail.I will keep you informed as things progress.
Thanks a million Pete. These are fantastic!
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Scott
To be honest, the quality and fine detail is better than everything I have seen so far including X-frog, however the range is limitted right now. I believe that when he has a comprehensive range of the same quality then he will have the best thats currently available.
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@solo said:
Stu,
Yup, he also made the ones for Ozbreed and is commissioned to make more in the near future.
Sorry Pete, I thought I was actually telling you that
[there is a link on Andrew's site to the OzBreed site.]
As I understand it, Andrew is a New Zealander and the plants on his site [Cordylines, Phormium etc.] are native to his country.
He has been promising for a long time now to come out with with a collection of Australian native plants, so lets hope he doesnt shelve that in a rush to try to compete with ImageCels, Ambient Light, Got3D, etc etc.
Scott,
Ambient Light puts out good stuff but I would think Envirographics cut-outs are superior. And I would imaging that a lot of time, blood sweat and tears has been lost in their production.
As great as they are, I'm not sure the quality would be noticed in most renders unless they are in the foreground. You might have noticed that a lot of suppliers are offering high res. branches as foreground framing of renders, which is sort of admitting that a lot of images dont work that well close up..but then they dont need to.
Stu
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Solo,
Thanks I Will have to look into them some more.
Stu,
I completely agree. More times than not you can get away with a medium quality image if it is not in the foreground. I would just like to see some more high quality images for foreground work than just using my same few, but then again for 80-90% of my work I do not do exterior renderings. Not too many office spaces that require high quality foreground plants. For the price though, these are worth looking into.
Does anyone have any experience with http://www.vbvisual.com
Scott
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Stu,
you are indeed correct - I am a New Zealander
.The Australian project was announced about 7 months ago and in between I was contracted by Ozbreed to work on their 30+ free plant library (which are all Australian). Nothing has changed in terms of my commitment to completing a nice range of Australian natives and in fact I am working on a Kings park special right now.
I also have to be realistic about the economics of supply and demand, NZ and Australia is a tiny market compared with the rest of the world. At the end of the day I still need to eat like everyone else (feel free to order the trees
) - so if support is lacking then I will find a new market, or run away and join the circus.So no, I won't be shelving the Australian project.
Andrew
@stu said:
@solo said:
Stu,
Yup, he also made the ones for Ozbreed and is commissioned to make more in the near future.
Sorry Pete, I thought I was actually telling you that
[there is a link on Andrew's site to the OzBreed site.]
As I understand it, Andrew is a New Zealander and the plants on his site [Cordylines, Phormium etc.] are native to his country.
He has been promising for a long time now to come out with with a collection of Australian native plants, so lets hope he doesnt shelve that in a rush to try to compete with ImageCels, Ambient Light, Got3D, etc etc.
Scott,
Ambient Light puts out good stuff but I would think Envirographics cut-outs are superior. And I would imaging that a lot of time, blood sweat and tears has been lost in their production.
As great as they are, I'm not sure the quality would be noticed in most renders unless they are in the foreground. You might have noticed that a lot of suppliers are offering high res. branches as foreground framing of renders, which is sort of admitting that a lot of images dont work that well close up..but then they dont need to.
Stu
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Andrew, good to hear from!
Firstly, it great stuff you are putting out!
And I'm glad to hear the Oz plants are still on the way.....can't wait to see the King's Park Special.
There is a real need for local native plants but I do understand we have a pretty small market down here.[And its about time, BTW, that I flashed the plastic!
]Stu
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Stu, nice to meet you.
The Kings park special is coming along nicely, its a lot of work but then again it will be well worth the effort.
And the fact that the plants are Australian and New Zealand natives should not be overlooked.
Almost everything from that Sketchup $49.50 collection is very popular in the northern hemisphere.
The Cabbage trees for instance are extremely common throughout the UK, they call them Cabbage palms over there and are used a lot in modern landscaping due to their hardiness in colder climates.The Phoriums are popular in the UK and the States, they are grown in huge numbers especially in the warmer climates like California.
The free Ozbreed plants sell in their millions, again, extremely popular in Europe and the States - which is where Todd Layt (Ozbreed director) is at the moment.
Please feel free to contact me anytime if you have any requests for the Australian library Stu.
Andrew
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Solo, Mike
Thanks so much for these links.
For the past few weeks I have lost a serious amount of sleep doing several large 3d site models that are heavily foliaged. Putting in the foliage has got me behind with the project, but it is a requirement and I've started so I'll finish. I have trawled the net and I thought I'd found every free 2d pr plant out there - most weren't much good. I've spent many a coffee fuelled hour trying to make my own. But these links are great. I might actually finish the project today!
P.S. Anybody know where I can find aerial shots of trees, that I could use on a plan view - tried Google Earth, too fuzzy.
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Jon,
You have looked at http://archiforge.com/
and http://vyonyx.com/index.php/category/down/cutout-trees ?
And http://www.got3d.com/ has a generous selection of samples.Stu
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Thanks Stu,
Yes I have checked these sites, Vyonyx is great. What would speed things up most would be top view photos of trees, I haven't found any on the net, but I've made a few half decent looking ones. I think for my next project I'll have to go to a tall building and photograph some trees from the top!
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