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      sorgesu
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      Rob, I'm just wondering if using the "from contours" in sandbox might not speed things up a little.

      If you cut the profiles where they begin to undulate in a vertical fashion, you would have 3 secitons to the the chair seat. The fromt bit which curves round and under; the middle which is a horizontally undulating plane; and the back which is a a vertical 'landscape". Rotate the 2 vertical "landscape" sections, that is the front and back, so that the curves are now horizontal. Use the "From contours tool on each section. There will be a ton of "bad" arees that don't follow the curves exactly, but those may be faster to fix than to draw every single segment in the first palce. Then when it is corrected, rotate the 2 vertical sections back into position.
      Have you tried that and does it work for you?

      Susan Sorger
      Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
      Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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        robmoors
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        To be honest I have not worked with the sandbox tools At All, so I have no idea, I'll have to try that soon, though what I am looking for is a ruby script that can make faces out of the grid I set up, that would save me a lot of work, I have tried converting the cruves I set up to a single curve and then using the curve stitcher but then you got a proper mess so thats not an option.

        But I will have a look at the sandbox option. And if anyone knows of a script to stitch a grid I would be more than happy to know about this.

        Thanks!

        Rob Moors
        Architecture Student

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          boofredlay
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          Hey Rob, and others, check this quick tut I created using part of your method. I think this would save you a bunch of time. Thanks Susan for the suggestion. πŸ˜‰

          Download Tutorial

          http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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            ypnos1
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            I just tried the create contours idea and couldn't get it to work.

            I did however have much success with the a new ruby call D.B Tools. It did all the stiching for me. Rob it sounds like you did all the stitching by hand....definately check this out because this will save you lots of time.

            I've attached the script for you here
            let me know if this works out for you

            Thanks again for posting your tutorial - it is always great to see new work flows.

            Regardless I'm haven't made the mental connection between your tutorial and the chair. How the heck did you make those pads!

            Great work
            thanks again
            btw - i still hate you πŸ’š

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              ypnos1
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              I tried posting the .zip file of the ruby script and it didn't work. Not sure why....perhaps i should go back and read posting requirements 😳

              in the mean time i'll give it another shot
              Skin.zip

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                robmoors
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                ypnos you forgot the attachment πŸ˜›, I would love to see it. As for the pad, I rotated the section planes and did quite an amount of stitching and made a lot of corrections by eye later on. So it's partially a lot of experience modelling.

                I mustve done more than 200 models similar like this one by now, so I know what I am doing and I keep improving my methods, but this method is something I always come back to, sorta like a basis, I often also use the stitchings of the curve with a follow me and so on. A mental connection also doesn't exist for me I just model πŸ˜› if you want to put it into term I would put it like: I see the whole thing like a ball of clay with structure. Nothing is impossible that is what you have to keep in mind.

                Rob Moors
                Architecture Student

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                  ypnos1
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                  Rob
                  Thanks for the advice------i realized i messed up the attachment and you might have missed my additional post a minute after i posted my first comment

                  I got it to attach properly the second time around.....so go back and find that script

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                    boofredlay
                    last edited by

                    Crap ypnos1 ❗ that is a great script. Thanks. :thup:

                    http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                      sorgesu
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                      I tried to use the script on the contours of the chair from Rob's tut and it gave me an error "fakestart" and then an "attenion" window that refuses to go away. It won't let me close it. I'm hung. Needs a little work.

                      Susan Sorger
                      Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                      Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                        sorgesu
                        last edited by

                        Okay, I got it to work. Works with only 2 'faces' at a time but it took just minutes to make the 4 skins. Here is Rob's chair resulting from the script.

                        Really a Fabulous script,even with the error.

                        Can't thank you enough ypnos for bringing this to our attention.
                        And a round of applause for Didier.
                        dual_curve_w_Skin.skp

                        Susan Sorger
                        Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                        Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                          ypnos1
                          last edited by

                          Definately a big shout out to Diddier for his awesome work on this script.

                          It's not perfect yet but it beats the hell out of connectin all those dots!
                          Great thread guys
                          glad I could contribute in a meaningful way

                          Major props to Rob for his excellent work
                          Hey Rob-what is your background anyway? What are trained in? CG, Architect etc.

                          just curious
                          I'm also guessing you are younger than me (i'm 34) which again will make me hate you

                          Talk to you later

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                            robmoors
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                            Yeah ypnos big thumbs up for the script thank you!

                            My background pff now that’s a hard one:

                            I started out with non digital design such as painting and drawing when I was 12, around when I was 14 I started digital design; I got all my basics down back then: everything from Photoshop to Illustrator to After Effects. When I was good enough I started doing some art commissions mostly posters and display boards and such. When I was about 16 I picked up 3D again got all my basics down in the first 3 months or so; maya, 3dsmax, vue, rhino, cinema4d you name it I used probably.

                            About 1.5 year ago I picked up Sketchup got it down within no time and really enjoyed it, got to know of FormFonts through Coen, after 6 months into SU and got in. Now I have been working for FormFonts for a year.

                            And so far I have done 2 years of Architecture at the Technical University of Delft.

                            And I am currently 20 years old yes πŸ˜›.
                            Think that about covers it. But trust me I have seen people which I am more than jealous of, people who make me look average. The higher you get the more difficult it gets to exceed in what you do. Trust me on this one πŸ˜›.

                            But thanks for the interest!

                            Rob Moors
                            Architecture Student

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                              ypnos1
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                              Rob

                              Thanks for sharing your background. You sound like a talented guy with a bright future. Glad we can exchange information and ideas in this forum. :thup:

                              Good luck to you man.
                              Ypnos

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                                robmoors
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                                @ sorgesu:

                                I just used the script on a new model of mine, no problems with errors what so ever worked like a charm and saved me ALOT of work. And it connected two manually drawn curves in no time, after I set the curves in I was done within a minute or so. Amazing script, I will use this script in the future for sure.

                                @ ypnos:

                                No problem I always enjoy sharing my background, though the cold facts do sounds a lot better than it actually was. I had to work hard to get to the point where I am at now.

                                Talent has little to do with it I think??

                                I had to learn everything bymyself, I didn't had the help of great fora like this one with people who are very motivated to help. I had to do it myself which is a long and hard route to take. Im what you call an autodidact going through manuals and tutorials without any interaction with fellow artists and active feedback. Difficult but you get to understand a program MUCH better not faster unfortunately. So it will pay out in the end.

                                I still remember when I started drawing, it was in elementary school, I was in the 5th grade I believe, out of the 8 that is. And I was totally excited that I had discovered single point perspective all by myself (didn't even know what it was called back then πŸ˜›). I still think back to that moment to remember what it was that motivated me to teach all that stuff myself. I can't recommend everyone the same path but it'll sure help you get grips on Graphical Design and the tools involved with that.

                                And I have seen your work ypnos, you are also more than a talented guy, glad we have you here! Don't you dare be jealous of me!

                                Rob Moors
                                Architecture Student

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                                  ypnos1
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                                  i'm old school baby

                                  check out some of my pre-Sketchup action.

                                  Thanks for the compliment and insight Rob. Good chatting with you - hope you dig some of my work too.

                                  One last question ------ if you know how to use more advanced modeling softwares, why do you use Sketchup over the others? Is the SU community any different from other modeling communities? Just curios

                                  Ypnos
                                  vertical at angle.jpg
                                  Sketch_page2b_small.jpg
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                                    jeff jacobs
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                                    Damn Ypnos, I've always loved that project. It was published some time ago, right? I am going to build one in my backyard so I can escape from the kids when I need to (usually once every few hours).

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                                      sorgesu
                                      last edited by

                                      Rob, I got the error when I tried to use it with all 4 surfaces at once.

                                      Susan Sorger
                                      Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                                      Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                                        boofredlay
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                                        I got the same thing Susan. I am finding it easier in most instances to use the "from contours" Sandbox tool. Still a nice script however.

                                        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                          ypnos1
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                                          Censored to protect your privacy Boofredlay + Susan
                                          I don't know why but sandbox tool yielded a very strange result for me (see attached image) You guys didn't have this problem?

                                          Censored to protect your privacy Susan

                                          I only got it to work when selecting two faces at a time but not all at once

                                          Censored to protect your privacy Jeff

                                          Jeff glad to hear you are around in here checking things out. That project is following me around - it was built in 2004 and it has been published a dozen times. That normally would be a good thing, my only problem is i haven't built anything of substance since. I've designed a lot of cool stuff but somehow finances fall through, clients move/change their minds etc. So every time I see it I get depressed not because it wasn't a great project but because so much time has elapsed since a thoughtful project of mine got built......

                                          Anyways - sorry for leading this thread astray everybody - wandering is a bad habit of mind that has followed me into this forum.

                                          Talk to you guys later

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                                            boofredlay
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                                            ypnos1, no attached image but I think I know what you are talking about.
                                            If you look at the small tut I made Here I rotated the bottom arcs to face "upwards". The sandbox tool assums you are creating terrain so I believe the geometry you want to stitch needs to be facing upwards.

                                            Make sense???

                                            http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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