Solar system in the Park
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For me, a work of art works when it inspires. And reading thru this thread, this piece must be art! (Seems, considering the now technical discussion, it has also taught...as art will teach :`)
Way to go Monika (right?), and best, Tom.
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Reading this thread I 've been thinking of "art" and "accuracy" but haven't found the solution. Found this dude however, who must have been insane and couldn't have been an artist if we take accuracy a principal element of art:
I said to myself "well, this guy surely couldn't have built a single shed..." but then:
NowI'm confused... Who the hell was this guy called Giotto? An out-of-scale painter or a brilliant architec? Until this topic I used to love his works - now he's becoming suspicious...
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well I think that modelhead is incorrect in his assumption that man found the wheel or made it before he planned it... if he made it... he drew it on a wall or in the dirt with his finger before he made it... or he made a smaller model of it...
on gaieus' note... I'm not sure what the two pieces have to do with each other... is the first picture supposed to be his plans for the building? because I would doubt that...
to me the art of architecture follows form... it is useless if it does not "work" so that is the first rule of the medium, and also the challenge therein... because we strive for different materials that allow us to express ourselves further and further...
in getting back to this threads base... there is an accepted interpretation of most things that are difficult to describe otherwise... a simple google image search, shows us that there is a recognized standard in symbology to describe our solar system even though it is out of scale... and you'll even recognize the examples from high school and such... because it is impossible to visually express the issue in a real scale, you must imply it...
that is my advice to our modeler of the solar park... find some way to imply the shear scale of the system, even if you do not portray it in form... perhaps changing scale between each planet and finding a way to portray that such as different sized mediums between paths...
anyway... a beautiful idea, and a great topic for the discussion of architecture...
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Kriss,
What I was trying to express here was that when you simply cannot "real scale" visualize what you would like to show, there indeed can be some kind of abstract way to do it. Giotto's concept was that the buildings (or even nature) he painted were just symbols trying to put their peolpe into some kind of a scene. Obviously this comes from very strong medieval symbolism although he can also be taken for some early renaissance master (but perspective was only "invented" about a century later).
Back to the original topic - if we wanted to precisely (to-scale) visualize the Solar system, it would just simply be impossible for the things would be so small and so far from each other that they wouldn't give a small child any kind of a clue what's going on (he/she would probably even forget about what they are visiting by the time they get to Pluto).
Thus is the solution not to do the thing at all?! Certainly there could be some (or a lot of) changes in the model but I still like the idea. Antique masters visualized the Solar system (and the Universe) by depicting gods and constellations personofied - though they were pretty much aware that it didn't really look like that. I still also like that idea.Maybe I am more poetic kind of a soul than others but that is the point having a forum like this - learning each others' ideas and learning how to understand others' minds.
Thanks for all contributors to this thread - I've learnt a lot from all.
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Gully, I'm not going to try to make an engineer understand (proper) design, aesthetics and such - from experience it just won't work.
I don't want this thread to become a flame war so I'm going to close it. Sorry "jessalba" for closing your thread, I really like your attempt and the potential it has that can be developed.
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