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    • ashscottA Offline
      ashscott
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      I just bought an HP DV6 laptop with i7 processor
      Chip: 3610QM - 2.3Ghz, turbo boost to 3.3Ghz
      Ram: 8gb with 1600mhz FSB
      Graphics: Geforce GT 630m (2gb dedicated ram)
      64 bit config obviously
      I know the ram and 64 bit dont help much but those are the specs available with an 'out of the box' laptop with the i7 and reasonable graphics card.

      However, the new config seems to be struggling in SU with models that were a sinch to my 3 year old laptop which was:
      2.6Ghz dual core (max clock speed)
      Geforce GT 9600m (512mb dedicated ram)

      What is going on?
      The only thing I can think of is that there may be a significant delay from the 2.3Ghz to the turbo boost 3.3Ghz as I know the CPU has to process before the GPU gets a hold of things....

      Has anyone else had trouble with an i7 chip?

      Just some stuff I do with Sketchup.

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        I am not sure about the processor but these newer laptops come with two video cards: one is an integrated chipset and the other is the dedicated card. By default, the chipset is set to handle everything and you need to adjust nvidia's "Optimus" settings to handle either everything by the dedicated card by default or handle individual applications.

        These are my settings on my Hungarian OS (so try to find your equivalent)

        Control panel > Hardware and sounds

        https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Hk7Y6RJIAfA/TpKkv7GQIOI/AAAAAAAAGto/EgCMXWHWBxM/s855/Acer-02.jpg

        nvidia control panel

        https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ou5QouXzSkA/TpKkvDGt0LI/AAAAAAAAGtk/VaUGmnqYHPk/s855/Acer-01.jpg

        3D settings > global settings > preferred card...
        (Make sure that anisotropic filtering and antialiasing is set to application controlled - and then in the program specific settings leave it to global - or at least set them like this for SU there if you want some other global setting)

        https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lrBPbU8SWW0/TpKkwT-tZ2I/AAAAAAAAGts/vzA6E9_q4gM/s920/Acer-03.jpg

        **OR:** program specific settings > go for SU here and set nvidia.

        https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CQU3HShpBUw/TpKkw3ei0fI/AAAAAAAAGtw/Bk9KrJ1yvKw/s915/Acer-04.jpg


        If this is not the issue, someone may chime in with the i7 problem but I have an i3 only and SU rocks on that laptop with these settings.

        Gai...

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        • ashscottA Offline
          ashscott
          last edited by

          Gai,

          To say you are a ridiculously committed sketchup freak would be an understatement.

          I did have high performance enabled for sketchup but did not have it as the global setting.

          Have implemented your suggestions but no noticeable change.

          I am copying and pasting trees for a forest scene (the trees have a lot of polygons but the overall file size is still under 5 meg) and the worst performance impact is when I am placing the pasted tree - would this indicate that it is more a CPU than GPU issue??

          Thanks for your lightning fast input Gaius

          Just some stuff I do with Sketchup.

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            This is because the component you are placing has many repeated groups/components nested within, so the file size might look small but the polys are extremely high. SU only uses on core (CPU) also.

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              @ashscott said:

              ...I did have high performance enabled for sketchup but did not have it as the global setting...

              You do not need both just either (although both won't hurt). You can also try to update your video driver maybe...

              Now as for further trouble shooting: Solo might be right. No matter what computer you have, SU has a poly limitation (as you obviously know) and this is somehow exaggerated when too deeply nested components are there.

              Gai...

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              • ashscottA Offline
                ashscott
                last edited by

                I think Solo's answer is most helpful in this instance - although the pasted tree has a relatively small file size its huge number of polygons is still too much and the CPU/GPU on most machines would struggle.

                Everything runs fine once I have positioned said trees so what Solo says make sense.

                Thanks Guys

                Just some stuff I do with Sketchup.

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                • ashscottA Offline
                  ashscott
                  last edited by

                  Still having a bit of an issue with this - thought I would put it up in case anyone else has the same problem. I got a bit of software off intel's site that tells me when the i7 is using turbo-boost. I can't seem to get turbo boost going while I am manipulating geometry in SU but as soon as I turn on a ray tracer turbo boost immediately comes on.

                  However, SU keeps stalling out when I move between scenes in a complex model but if I watch the clock speed on intel's software it shows the CPU is hardly working so the stalling is definately caused by the GPU or at least the bottleneck between CPU and GPU. I have Nvidia's software turned up to "performance" and using the max power GPU setting globally but am still having these slow-downs that I didn't get on my old computer....

                  Any GPU experts can shed some light?

                  Ash

                  Just some stuff I do with Sketchup.

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                  • ashscottA Offline
                    ashscott
                    last edited by

                    Sorry, if you want the turbo-boost monitoring software from intel you can download it here:
                    [url]
                    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3052&DwnldID=19105&lang=eng[/url]

                    Just some stuff I do with Sketchup.

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