The Art of SketchUp - part 2: Sci-Fi

ken28875 · 1 Oct 2010, 13:56

yeah I think a render overlaid in PS with some fancy blending might go down a treat however I am wary as they request line art only? still got two weeks before deadline so see what everybody else is doing first I know a lot of people wont post till the end also. Im sure it will look fine my plan is to do plain black and white line art and then do a digital paint of one of an orthographic view.

Hello Liam,

How is it going with your starship?

I think i will focus mainly on my high detailed model with the 6 views in black/white lines for the main submission. I will also submit another one with renders of different views and details like the ones below. I don't think I will have time to do a colored render. since it is just an option, I don't think it will be a big deal. There are many entries (most of the nice ones actually) that have great colored renders, but the 6 views are so simple and even lack the details. Since the judges will mainly look at the orthogonal views, I want to show some very nice detailed views.

Here are some more views of the WIP from last night or this morning since It's past 6am and I am still awake.

I added a lot more details, but still have to finish some parts that are still empty. But it's getting there.

Thanks for viewing and have a great friday and weekend!

_KN

You have to zoom in very closely to see these details:

pilou · 1 Oct 2010, 15:09

There is a bolt missing!

EscapeArtist · 3 Oct 2010, 01:20

WOW! That detail is amazing!

michaliszissiou · 3 Oct 2010, 18:17

@pilou
@ken
great work. I'm not sure if this can help but here an asteroid like. Use it if you like
http://www.mediafire.com/?d54364rm2uv4rmx

dolphus · 4 Oct 2010, 04:56

Ken it was obvious when you posted the first views of the ship that this was going to be special....well you did not disappoint.....it is magnificent....a benchmark ...very well done... ......next???????

ken28875 · 6 Oct 2010, 16:02

@ artysmedia/Roberto: Thank you. I used Vray and overlay with Sketchup lines.

@ Pilou:

@unknownuser said:

:shock:
There is a bolt missing!

LOL....but it's true...there is a missing bolt! Pilou has the eye of an eagle. I will ask the engineering crew on board of the ship to fix it.

@ Michalis: Thank you very much for your asteroid, but I will probably not use it this time as I won't have time to do a colored render. I might use it in the future though.

@ Escape artist/Jeff: Glad you like the details. Thanks.

@ Coen: Thanks for your comment. Hope all is well in Rotterdam.

Here are the latest WIP with more details added. One more week to go. Deadline for the contest is next Wednesday. I have the back (top and bottom) to finish.

I run into a problem when rendering with Vray. It worked when it's half of the ship. But when I mirrored the model to have a both sides, Sketchup and Vray crashed. Maybe they cannot handle such a big and intensive polycount.

Anyway, thanks for viewing. Have a terrific day!

_KN

artysmedia · 6 Oct 2010, 17:28

@ken28875 said:

@ artysmedia/Roberto: Thank you. I used Vray and overlay with Sketchup lines.

Thanks for the tip
You are a monster!

Solidseal · 6 Oct 2010, 21:02

What is the purpose of the small 'ship' on the side ?

Is it an escape pod of somekind or really a part of the whole?

And really .. I dont like the ship anymore ... It's to damn real .. even real ships are less ... real o0

CoreMaster110 · 8 Oct 2010, 13:52

Awesome

liam887 · 9 Oct 2010, 17:14

Well I just got back from London late last night and have picked up more work while I was down there with only seven days before my deadline so no chance of free time to make a ship in time for the 13th deadline.
Im glad I told you about this, I think you can win you have the best entry I have seen so far and your flying the banner for all the sketchup users!
As for the render and crashing try deleting everything not in the camera shot to take the size down thats what I have done in the past for some larger models!
Looks great good luck ill be following the judging and results over on the eve competition website.

ken28875 · 10 Oct 2010, 05:00

@ Roberto/Artysmedia: You're welcome. Anytime.

@ solidseal: honestly, I wasn't sure what to do about that second ship. I wanted to do something more interesting in shape and less symetrical. It is part of the main ship or it could be an escape ship.

@dolphus said:

Ken it was obvious when you posted the first views of the ship that this was going to be special....well you did not disappoint.....it is magnificent....a benchmark ...very well done... ......next???????

@ Dolphus: Thank you , Sir. What's next? Well, I still have to finish the starship. I will probably go back to finishing the fantasy interior renders after the EVE contest.
Thanks for the explanation of the "Worm thing". Very nice stuff.

@liam887 said:

Well I just got back from London late last night and have picked up more work while I was down there with only seven days before my deadline so no chance of free time to make a ship in time for the 13th deadline.
Im glad I told you about this, I think you can win you have the best entry I have seen so far and your flying the banner for all the sketchup users!
As for the render and crashing try deleting everything not in the camera shot to take the size down thats what I have done in the past for some larger models!
Looks great good luck ill be following the judging and results over on the eve competition website.

@ Liam: Thanks for your kind words and support. Hopefully, I will get one of the first 3 prizes. Sorry to hear that you will not be able to submit something. Yes, I thought about deleting things outside the camera for faster render, but this model is huge and it might be time consuming since I have many views.

By the way, pretty nice solar explorer. Can't wait to see some renders and more close-up details. Oh, you might want to change "Exolorer" to "Explorer". Actually "Solar Exolorer" is an interesting name though.

So the starship is pretty much done. I have to do some b/w renders and the presentation for submission. Hopefully everything should be done by monday. Then I can go sleep and hibernate for a week.

Thanks for viewing.

Have a nice one!

_KN

d12dozr · 10 Oct 2010, 06:19

Excellent work, Ken...the level of detail is amazing.

Some of the small details are lost in the line overlay, if you want to make the lines finer you can export from SU at double the final resolution and re-size down afterward...just a thought, use it or toss it

michaliszissiou · 10 Oct 2010, 11:16

Great once again . Heavy outline ruin the beauty of your model. IMO

liam887 · 10 Oct 2010, 12:56

Yeah I didn't notice the spelling mistakes thanks for pointing it out, good job its still a WIP!
How big is the file in SU for this contest model, I would like to paint it up one day in photoshop if you would let me although not any time soon I have too much work on in real life and University, still disappointed I could not enter but im glad you will get one of the top three with an awesome sketchup model.

You know if you win they will put this in the game how awesome would that be!

ken28875 · 12 Oct 2010, 06:18

@ Marcus and Michalis: Thanks for your feedback. Yes, the plan was to have the lines thinner so you can see the details.

@ Liam: I would not mind to give the file to you if you want to do a paintover. But it is huge...something like 40 MB. For those who love numbers, the model has over 100 components and it has almost 2 millions polygons.

All right, I finally finished it. It took me 3 weeks, working a few hours each night. I am like a zombie now, but I think these sleepless nights were worth it.

Here is the final submission:

You can see the DeviantArt submission here:

(browse.deviantart.com)

What's next? I will go back to finish my 2 fantasy interiors that I was working on.

I hope you had enjoyed following this thread of the WIP of the Starship as much as I enjoyed working on it. I really appreciate everyone kind comments and support.

Thank you and have a good night (I will be sleeping for the next few days... )

All the Best,

_KN

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shura · 12 Oct 2010, 07:38

MASSIVE!

liam887 · 12 Oct 2010, 10:34

Yeah thanks it has great lines to will be easier to paint and dont worry 40MB is ok but wont get round to it for a while im really busy with work and university.

amazing!
Be careful tho im sure the rules stated 6 line drawings and then an optional 'single' piece of concept work that can be rendered painted etc. You sure you can have that many images on the submission?
Anyway good luck thats a sure winner or top three it has to be if not I cant wait to see what the other entries were!!!!

Solidseal · 12 Oct 2010, 16:21

Very nice.
You are allready a winner. However, there are a few in the contest that have very very impressive ships.

Good luck

ken28875 · 12 Oct 2010, 16:27

@ Shura: haha, that's the idea. Thank you.

@ Liam: Yes, I did carefully read the rules and was wondering how to break them without being disqualified. Rules are made to be broken, right? I browse all the other entries and most of them (the best ones) somehow broke the rules. Technically, we added more to the submission. Anyway, I think the most important parts are the 6 views as the colored render is optional. I believe this contest is not about who can have the best render but who can give them what they need to build a starship, which is the schematic line drawing . People at CCP have their own textures and set of colors for each race already. So this is my strategy, if I give them the best line drawing with details in real and accurate dimensions, I will have more chance to get a prize.

My other plan is actually to sell them the model if I win. They want the line drawing to build their model. But why do it when they can actually have the real model. I am guessing, it will take more than 3 weeks (working 4-5 hours a day) for a Maya or Max user to build this kind of detailed model. So they will save time and money if they buy mine. It's a win-win situation.

So I may not be able to give you the model, if assuming I win and they want to buy my model. Will see.

Take care,

_KN

Ghalko · 12 Oct 2010, 21:13

Just an idea for the contest: I play a bit of Eve, so "Typhon" is awfully close to "Typhoon" a ship in an enemy faction. You might not want to actually name the ship, allowing CCP to do that as they have naming schemes.

I was thinking of submitting with an Angel faction ship (seen by unknown pilots and only recently confirmed as a background story.) But I am no where even close to as good, my ideas might be good, but can't get them to form very well. Only recently picked up plug-ins.

I wish you the best, though I will probably be shooting at yours rather than flying it. Though it looks like it could certainly put a dent in anything it comes across.