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    • J Offline
      joppermann
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      @roger said:

      Should I build the castle, seawall, ocean and ships in the distance?

      Perhaps just a merchantman in the offing under the battery with a english frigate in wait with the battery under its lee. Of course with a high sea. Just kidding Roger. The model is amazing enough the way it is, I can't wait until it is together!

      Oh on a side note...you have an elevating screw because batteries didn't have to deal with the swell of the sea. John's Endeavour has chock's (wedges) for it's long guns because it made for fast barrel adjustment under the rise and fall of the sea. This would be common on all ships carrying long guns. The exception would be carronades which was a short stout ship cannon that was extremely powerful but incredibly inaccurate. So these would also use an elevating screw. If you already knew this you can just tell me to shut up πŸ˜‰

      Well you have inspired me...It may just be time for me to play with something on the historic side instead of just work. Beautiful piece Roger. I will be following your progress.

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        Roger
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        Jeff, if I laughed at your comment would that make me a Jolly Roger?

        Seriously thanks for that little tidbit of history about chocks vs leveling screws. I thought the screw was just a technology upgrade over the chock, but what yo say makes perfect sense.

        I have to come up with a better texture for the gun carriage. The engineered wood look lacks historical accuracy.

        http://www.azcreative.com

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          joppermann
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          @roger said:

          Jeff, if I laughed at your comment would that make me a Jolly Roger?

          Seriously thanks for that little tidbit of history about chocks vs leveling screws. I thought the screw was just a technology upgrade over the chock, but what yo say makes perfect sense.

          I have to come up with a better texture for the gun carriage. The engineered wood look lacks historical accuracy.

          Was the carriage indeed bare wood? Most commonly they were painted. Does it still exist? Do you have photos of it now? It would be interesting to see.

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            joppermann
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            This may be worth a look as well. This is from the woodworking forum. http://www.veneeronline.com/home.aspx Although it may be best to look into lumber reuse companies. They may have photos of nice reclaimed textures. Just an idea.

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              Roger
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              ![Not quite aligned yet barrel of the mole gun "El Tigre."](/uploads/imported_attachments/wCOh_cannon_barrelassembled_peg2_sm.jpg "Not quite aligned yet barrel of the mole gun "El Tigre."")

              Jeff, I know it will disappoint some, but when it comes to the wood for the carriage the art director in me will probably out vote the historian. Maybe I will do mahogany with a rubbed tung oil finish.

              http://www.azcreative.com

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                joppermann
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                That will be beautiful. Will you do all the caps, bolts, etc in the same material (brass?) as you have done with the cannon itself? That would look spectacular.

                Thanks for posting a pic with cannon together. It looks great!

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                  joppermann
                  last edited by

                  Oh ya...here is a nice high res mahogany material if you are looking for one. May need some post pro but that would be easy for you. http://www.dackor.com/colors/422-3018_Mahogany_Large.JPG

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                    ken28875
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                    Pretty cool model, Mr. Hawkins. πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                    How did you do the renders? I really like the style.

                    Nice texture wrapping too. Can't wait to see the final model.

                    Have a great day!

                    _KN

                    Follow Your Dreams.

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                      Roger
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                      Jeff, all the stuff on the gun carriage will be black iron with only the gun in bronze.

                      Thanks for the mahogany texture. I will also shoot the backrest of the mahogany couch that I built. I built the entire couch out of a single mahogany board. The board itself cost $500. When I went to the lumber yard and told them what I wanted, they said come out back and see what we have. It was one 2" thick board big enough to build the whole piece of furniture. They said it had just come in and they had not had a piece that size in 18 months.

                      I had been downsized by my company so I had a lot of time to stand outside and rub down the wood with oil. Mahogany is a bit magical as the wood sucks up minerals like silicates while it grows. It dulls saws quickly, but the mineral factor does crazy things with light. Depending on sun orientation the wood sparkles and changes color.

                      http://www.azcreative.com

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                        Roger
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                        Ken, Chao Ong.

                        I haven't run it through a render engine yet. I is pretty much straight SketchUp with some minor post production in PhotoShop.

                        I am far from happy with the texture wrapping. One thing that did please me was the decorative bands at the front and middle of the gun. I am working from a detailed reference model and I was able to photograph the model in my studio and digitally unwrap the bands, rectify and color and tonally correct them before rewrapping on the virtual model. The middle band was perfect. The front band was also good when I built the front module, but came apart when I assembled my various sub components. I will have to go in and remap that texture.

                        As to the background, it is the masonite style that comes with SU. I burned, dodged, and played with the levels and color balance. These adjustments made the burned areas come out way too red so I went back and toned that down with the desaturation brush.

                        Hoa binh my friend.

                        And always remember that the slow water buffalo drinks muddy water.

                        http://www.azcreative.com

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                          Roger
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                          El Tigre - the NPR version
                          I think I will give this a break for a while before making corrections to the model and doing a photo real render.

                          While I am working, I am listing to a Discovery Channel program on undersea archaeology and cannon recovery. It is confusing to listen to while working on this.

                          http://www.azcreative.com

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                            ken28875
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                            Great render, Mr. Hawkins. πŸ‘ Can't wait to see your photo real render.

                            Cheers!

                            _KN

                            Follow Your Dreams.

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                              joppermann
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                              Beautiful Roger. Nice to see it together!

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                                chrisglasier
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                                @roger said:

                                ... before making corrections to the model and doing a photo real render.
                                .

                                The barrel will look more metallic in that?

                                With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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                                  Roger
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                                  Yes SketchUp has little reflectivity in it materials renditions. So my photoreal material should look more metallic.

                                  http://www.azcreative.com

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                                    Roger
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                                    First test render in Kerkythea. This render's function is to help me bracket the target as they say in the artillery branch. I want to go more elegant and less comic book. Sort of artillery as jewelry. I wish the render process was more interactive so I can see the changes as I work. This list of planned changes is too long to go into tonight.

                                    First test render in KT

                                    http://www.azcreative.com

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                                      ken28875
                                      last edited by

                                      very nice! πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                                      Follow Your Dreams.

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                                        Roger
                                        last edited by

                                        A journey of 10,000 miles ends with but one upload.

                                        Comments, thoughts, ideas? I still need to improve my control over KT, but this is beginning to feel good.

                                        http://www.azcreative.com

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                                          Fletch
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                                          the materials and lighting are everything now, as you have a good model (I believe)
                                          I don't think the materials have a realistic look to them at all currently.
                                          perhaps if you were to find a trusted 'buddy' over at the KT forum to help work out the mats, you could have a killer render.
                                          definitely look at the aged metal library they have for download. πŸ˜‰

                                          Fletch
                                          Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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