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    • MALAISEM Offline
      MALAISE
      last edited by

      Very interesting topic Aerillius and Gaius. I learned some useful things about medieval buildings. About lights, candles were put on heavymetal supports which were hanged with chains.
      May I suggest also to " smooth " the light when rendering? The sun light going throw the windows in the "Limburg3.jpg" picture seems to be too bright regarding the limburg Church location. ( It's like Mediterranean sea sun's brightness )

      MALAISE 👍

      La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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        Aerilius
        last edited by

        Many thanks for the advice!
        There are still some artifacts where light is coming through the walls (gaps of zero width)
        When it's finished, I will need to exercise which the best render settings are.

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          Aerilius
          last edited by

          Now most modeling is finished (yes, the westwerk is a more modern reconstruction than on the old painting). I'm making lots of textures. Here are some test renders without textures:
          I have still problems with photon mapping, there are some light phenomenons. I used global illumination and the maximum number of photons, but it is still there.
          westwerk
          main nave and intersection


          ![view from the entrance hall ("paradise") into the main nave, only normal raytracing](/uploads/imported_attachments/iEcc_render9b.jpg "view from the entrance hall ("paradise") into the main nave, only normal raytracing")

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            Great images - please, post more.

            About the light leaks... I don't know what may cause them but I really hope someone on the Kerky forums will be able to find the solution. Some really great renders could be made from this fine model - either textured or "just" in this clay mode.

            Can the problem be that it is actually not textured and your default colour is too light (almost or totally white)? That gives hard times to a lot of rendering apps.

            Gai...

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            • MALAISEM Offline
              MALAISE
              last edited by

              What a render Aerillius ! I'm fond of the nave and Intersection ones! Light rays amplify the "Collectedness" often found in old church or forests.

              More pictures please.

              MALAISE 👍

              La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                BTW that "intersection" is called "crossing" in English (but of course this doesn't matter the slightest in this case).

                Gai...

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                • M Offline
                  Macker
                  last edited by

                  The best way to resolve your lighting issues in the interior shots is to use Metropolis Light Transport rather than PM+FG. Though to achieve the "light rays" you'll need to turn on bi-directional path tracing.

                  For the exterior shots I'd use Path Tracing (Progressive), but I'd be sure to set the supersampling to at least 2x2, and definately 3x3 if render time isn't an issue.

                  Check out my blog @ http://macviz.blogspot.co.uk

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                  • A Offline
                    Aerilius
                    last edited by

                    Texturing is now complete. For these renders, I have not yet used bump maps and procedurals.


                    render7.jpg


                    render4.jpg


                    render5.jpg

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Looking nice so far (oh, no - great)

                      Bumps and some subtle reflections/shininess here and there will definitely put it onto a next level.

                      Try to create a bit of environment for it (some terrain, grass, roads/paths, trees) and it will rock!

                      Gai...

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        These are really cool models, Aerilius!
                        About naming strategy - why not organise them into appropriate folder? Like Romanesque > Windows/Doors/Columns etc...

                        (Especially now, with the back button back in the component browser, it's not too much effort to navigate between the folders)

                        Gai...

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                        • A Offline
                          Aerilius
                          last edited by

                          I've still been working on it, but I think I can start rendering today (with now bump maps, shininess, layerd materials etc)

                          By the way, I just found a way to make it look more real, "real 3d" 😆
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=22754&p=192152#p192152

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            Anyway, looking forward to seeing it. I had a look at the screenshots in your other topic and they indeed look promising! 👍

                            Gai...

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                              Aerilius
                              last edited by

                              Kerkythea is busy. But in the meantime I can post an image from some days ago:
                              2009-10-14_Limburg_Schöpfwerk.jpg
                              now in ruins

                              The monastery had a well (quite deep - 84m through the rock). I found a reconstruction drawing from 1852 for the bucket elevator (there are also other proposals like a wooden crane). I used the "aged materials pack" (was very difficult to adjust for the size of this model).

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                                Aerilius
                                last edited by

                                I added the surrounding buildings, the cloister, the refectory and the sacristy.
                                Unfortunately all in gothic architecture and not romanesque, so it took longer than I wanted. For that the effort was worth it, I uploaded some components to 3d-warehouse.

                                http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=aae30d4b36f19d48a124f4737362fcd&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other&ts=1254695240000

                                I hope they will be useful to someone.

                                I have already 120 components, already very confusing. I should optimize my naming strategy.

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Ehm... 😳

                                  Is that first image a reconstruction and render of the well? 😲

                                  Gai...

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                                    Aerilius
                                    last edited by

                                    I've tried some more renders, as spherical panoramas. I think they allow a much more realistic experience to the viewer than an animation (coming soon), because I don't have to care about render time and can use much better settings and light effects.
                                    See here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=23796

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                                      Aerilius
                                      last edited by

                                      I posted some final renders in the gallery.

                                      In October, I have also rendered some thousand images, but I'm afraid I will not have enough time to finish the animation in the last days of vacations.

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