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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

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    • mitcorbM 離線
      mitcorb
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      TIG:
      This skp should show the degenerated profiles and rails I mentioned.
      I also observe that the extruded results are nested groups, which can be very handy.
      Also, the results are slightly distorted or displaced from the original Beziers.
      Incidentally, the starting profile appears to have been pulled from its vertical orientation and leaned over.


      TIG.EExRxF.trial.skp

      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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      • TIGT 離線
        TIG Moderator
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        Can you post the unbroken curves 'before' EEing ?
        I see they are broken but I need the good set too...
        The profile face will start square to the path at the end nearest to it, however, 'followme' can twist extrusions as we know.
        The profile face is turned so its flat Y axis is 'vertical' at the path start...
        😕

        TIG

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        • mitcorbM 離線
          mitcorb
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          TIG said:
          "Can you post the unbroken curves 'before' EEing ?
          I see they are broken but I need the good set too..."

          mitcorb says: Unfortunately, I did not save the originating curves, sorry. That's why I suggested people might want to save them.
          However, I will see if I can reproduce the conditions, if you like.
          And thank you for your attention to this anomaly.
          I will have to post a new skp later.
          Thanks, again.

          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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          • mitcorbM 離線
            mitcorb
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            TIG:
            Please see attached skp of a new series using EExRxF.
            First panel: 4 Bezier curves.
            Second panel: Curves repositioned. Ends touching.
            Third, fourth and fifth panels show profiles, then rails then both.
            Groups were moved away from the originating curves along the Y axis with Select, Move. Note degradation of curves.
            Also, on the fifth panel the prompt was something like "Error: Cannot perform extrusion", then it proceeded, and that is what you see.
            EDIT:
            What I forgot to tell you on the previous post was that the same error comment occurred on that model in each case. But it proceeded anyway.
            I hope this example will help. And thanks again.


            TIG.EExRxF.exper20100301.skp

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            • TIGT 離線
              TIG Moderator
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              Thanks [?]
              I see the problem - I can even get different results each time I run it !
              It shouldn't affect existing curves and it should either make the extrusions OR not - the error message appears when it has failed to make an extrusion - which it does on say the first profile but succeeds thereafter !
              This is all a mess !
              Until I track down the cause of this I recommend to users - as you have already - to save your work and always use a copy of the curves with EEbyRbyFace as they might be lost/messed with inadvertently - I'm bogged down in other stuff at the moment but I'll look at a fix asap... 😒

              TIG

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              • mitcorbM 離線
                mitcorb
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                Thanks[?] Yes, thanks for the fact that you have opened up new possibilities and perspectives with this suite of tools. Even if they need to be fine tuned.
                Again, I applaud your talent.

                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                • ken28875K 離線
                  ken28875
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                  WOW, amazing plugin! 👍 👍

                  Thank you so much, TIG!

                  Have a wonderful day!

                  _KN

                  Follow Your Dreams.

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                  • ken28875K 離線
                    ken28875
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                    Hi TIG,

                    The plug is working, but I get that error message.

                    http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/ken28875/Sketchup/EEbEbR_error.jpg

                    Thanks,

                    _KN

                    Follow Your Dreams.

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                    • pilouP 離線
                      pilou
                      最後由 編輯

                      @TIG
                      A suggestion : does it possible to have an option for have "surfaces" (inwards & outwards) for use the Windowizer for exemple!
                      An automatic EEbR in the same time?


                      structure1.png

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • TIGT 離線
                        TIG Moderator
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                        Pilou

                        I the first example I made I explained a process...
                        Use the curves twice - as profiles/rails and make a smooth mesh with EEbyRails, and give its group a 'glass' material.
                        Then make the 'frames' using this tool - EEbyRailsByFace; give its group the 'frame' material.
                        Edit the glass-mesh group and select the faces and intersect with model - the glass panels will now get edges coincident with the frames...
                        You can explode the frames' groups and intersect them too...
                        Here's an example...EEbyXXX.png

                        TIG

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                        • pilouP 離線
                          pilou
                          最後由 編輯

                          yes you right, it's the more simple! ☀

                          Suggestion : a different "surface" for the borders

                          (click image if scrollbarr)
                          test.png

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • mitcorbM 離線
                            mitcorb
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                            Hi, TIG:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I see the problem - I can even get different results each time I run it !
                            It shouldn't affect existing curves and it should either make the extrusions OR not - the error message appears when it has failed to make an extrusion - which it does on say the first profile but succeeds thereafter !

                            Regarding your above reply, I was contemplating the action of the plugin from a purely qualitative point of view, as I am no coder. I was just wondering if- perhaps- disabling the minimum length default and the minimum angle default as part of the process would help. I really am just guessing.
                            I have noticed that the resultant construction tends to drift away from the original curves, even some features of FredoScale do this. So, maybe somehow the length and angle have something to do with it?

                            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                            • TIGT 離線
                              TIG Moderator
                              最後由 編輯

                              I haven't had a chance to investigate this yet... Since each form is an iteration of the last I suspect that there's some cumulative errors creeping in ? TBC...

                              TIG

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                              • mitcorbM 離線
                                mitcorb
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                                Ok.
                                Your reply makes more sense.
                                I was really just throwing out some kind of idea if it would help.

                                I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                • TIGT 離線
                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  Here's an update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=224219#p224219

                                  1.8 20100312 Erasure of original curves glitch fixed.

                                  TIG

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                                  • T 離線
                                    tald311
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                                    That is amazing!

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                                    • S 離線
                                      sepo
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                                      I am not able to get extrude edges by face or extrude edges by faces or extrude edges by rails by face to work. They all give me the message like on attached image and if I click OK I start losing the profiles created. What am I doing wrong. BTW I have installed demo of Thea. I wonder if the export plugin is making problem. The loft, lathe and extrude edges by rails works no problem. I am using latest version of the extrusion tools.


                                      screengrab.jpg

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                                      • TIGT 離線
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        The "profile's" face must be flat facing up [or down] in the Z [blue] axis.
                                        Try again with that... ❓

                                        TIG

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                                        • S 離線
                                          sepo
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                                          😳 yes ...it works now....after reading in detail....

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                                          • M 離線
                                            monkeybss
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

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