Npr render with twilight a la Majid and Tom
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I liked the bike. For me those little "lived in" details bring a render to life. Sort of the whole entourage idea. If you were making this for a client with kids, they would probably dig it, I know I would... damn yard apes leave their bikes all over the front lawn.
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Hi Tom,I've just logged on to post v5, so I hav'nt read your post properly yet.
But my first thoughts about your views versus Richards are about what a render is for.
Usually I guess this is largely up to the client, who of course is always right
In this case it's entirely subjective as well as making me think hard about process, intention et al.
However, here's my latest attempt following Dicks' advice.
For some reason the trees gain colour in the conversion from psd to jpg, something to do with how P/shop assigns colour profiles i think, back to the manual.justin, the whole entourage thing is open to debate from what I've seen, I've read many comments on this forum for and against.
Baz
Ps: It might be useful to show you the reference for the render - a house in my neighborhood that caught my eye.
Pps: Now that is interesting, the photo is uncropped straight from the camera, this is the first time I've put it next to the render, and the view is almost exactly the same in both.
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Baz I saw the gummies then noticed your in Aust!!! Didn't realise!
Quick play in PS! Mate I'd try just combining by weight two SU only image exports at two differing sun angles and see what the effect might be! You can even export the first then pull back into SU as a watermark and adjust blending! If you do the later you will when playing with the second sun angle suddenly notice the almost rendered feel jump out when you hit the right shadow cast!
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Richard, that looks good!
Is what you are proposing a new technique?
I've not come across it before.
I will give it a go.
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@baz said:
Richard, that looks good!
Is what you are proposing a new technique?
I've not come across it before.
I will give it a go.
bazWell yes and no baz!
Similar to the technique I worked out in this thread! Just taking out all the PS work!
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=16807&hilit=+rendering+this+is+cool
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@richard said:
Baz I saw the gummies then noticed your in Aust!!! Didn't realise!
Actually the trees are from 'Toms tree bundle', I changed the trunk colour to 'ghost gum', beige really.
I can't play here for a while, the real world has caught up with me, work wise.
I will check out the 'new' technique and post again in 3/4 days.
Meanwhile, thanks all for your interest and help.
Baz
ps: What do you think of Toms comments? I'm not stirring, just curious. -
@baz said:
@richard said:
Baz I saw the gummies then noticed your in Aust!!! Didn't realise!
Actually the trees are from 'Toms tree bundle', I changed the trunk colour to 'ghost gum', beige really.
I can't play here for a while, the real world has caught up with me, work wise.
I will check out the 'new' technique and post again in 3/4 days.
Meanwhile, thanks all for your interest and help.
Baz
ps: What do you think of Toms comments? I'm not stirring, just curious.Mate I was meaning the gummies in the photo reference!!!
Mate Tom has been quite gracious in giving you a lot of respectful informations!! It's hard to suggest it's right or wrong! I certainly agree with his comments about getting some tree shadows onto the driveway though at the same for this type of render I'm still not sure!
I would agree with Tom's comments about the trees not giving volume as cutouts tend to be lacking in that regard. If I use cutouts in a render I tend to paint them to a sandboxed grid so they avoid that flatness, or push planes back and forth! I'm not sure how Toms trees are constructed so not sure what the best method would be!
I'm not one to clutter scenes so that you loose the actual building, for example the one thing that caught my eye was the bike and pots - could be due to the angle of the shadow hiding much of the dwellings frontage! One thing I'd never do though is leave stuff lying around I'm not sure why one wants to take away from the design - your job doing a render is to show the dwelling not the entourage!
The other thing I feel and it sounds a bit adverse to where we are (the SU forums) but mate this style for me is verging on common SU! SU/PS has so many cool ways to create some nice styles and they just don't seem to be utilised, the same gets regurgitated over and over and is all so similar to the old dennis technique of years gone and it's getting old!
For me your scene is already well over baked, adding more clutter, more effect, more shadow - all when your not utilising the option to create realism is all just tending to obscure the actual purpose!
KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid is a fairly common term in aust and one worth observing generally I think!
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BTW mate! Not meaning at all to suggest that I don't understand why you are wanting to adopt new techniques but simply suggesting to look toward new styles!
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gotcha.. food for thought.
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Nice renders, but a bit too colorish in my sight. and were are the edge lines (in my tip, they are present
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